Thinking about a better UI
Jarvis, Robert P.
Jarvisb at timken.com
Thu Apr 15 17:08:40 UTC 1999
This may be taken as blasphemy in some quarters, but in Windows you can use
Ctrl-Tab and Shift-Ctrl-Tab to migrate between windows within an MDI
application. Perhaps Squeak could incorporate something similar..?
Bob Jarvis
The Timken Company
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Norton, Chris [SMTP:chrisn at Kronos.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 1999 1:03 PM
> To: 'squeak at cs.uiuc.edu'
> Subject: RE: Re[2]: Thinking about a better UI
>
> Hear hear! I constantly have multiple windows open (Squeak and other apps
> too).
>
> In fact, when I program my Smalltalk in VSE I often have 12 or more
> windows
> open, including several browsers, my sample application(s), inspector(s),
> workspace(s), transcript, window builder(s) and sometimes the debugger. I
> often feel very hampered in Squeak because it is so hard to organize (on a
> 17" monitor) 2 browsers, a change set, one or more inspectors, etc.., even
> with the screen maximized. Let's face it: my eyesight isn't very good; I
> prefer the 800 X 600 setting.
>
> Unlike the other folks who've participated in this discussion, I often use
> the M$ Alt-Tab (& Alt-Shift-Tab) feature. I also use the start bar
> buttons
> with great frequency. There has to be a simpler way to navigate betwixt
> the
> various Squeak windows! I often "lose" an inspector or workspace behind
> another Squeak window.
>
> I'd prefer any solution to this problem that can be accessed via the
> keyboard AND the mouse. To provide only a key board solution or only a
> mouse solution will just frustrate too many people.
>
> ---==> Chris
>
> PS> Let us not forget Morphs. Whenever I'm working with morphs, I
> inadvertently lose some morphs under others. There should be a simple way
> of get a list of the available morphs in your project and then getting any
> specific one to move itself to your mouse from wherever it is. Sometimes
> my
> morphs get put into positions where I can't get at some of their halo
> options too. The halo mechanism should know that its buttons are off of
> the
> screen and adjust themselves into visible space appropriately.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jerome.Garcia at wj.com [SMTP:Jerome.Garcia at wj.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 1999 12:37 PM
> > To: squeak at cs.uiuc.edu; Peter William Lount
> > Subject: Re[2]: Thinking about a better UI
> >
> > Peter William Lount wrote:
> >
> > >
> > Hey, I DON'T represent that remark! :-b
> > >
> >
> > Hey! Me too, Me too!
> >
> > I am very often working with lots of windows associated with at
> least
> >
> > 3 VisualWORKS images running simultaneously plus MS Word, Adobe
> > Acrobat Reader, and InternetExplorer. And yes, I can write
> documents,
> >
> > debug code, and alter user interfaces efficiently in this mode and
> > therefore prefer it. As Peter, I use the task bar a lot and I want
> to
> >
> > choose which windows I bring to the front not have someone
> determine
> > what is best for me. I also agree with Peter that it would be nice
> to
> >
> > be able to better organize and operate on all of an applications
> > windows when desired.
> >
> > Just my two cents :-)
> >
> > Jerome
> >
> >
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