Thinking about a better UI

Jarvis, Robert P. Jarvisb at timken.com
Thu Apr 15 17:08:40 UTC 1999


This may be taken as blasphemy in some quarters, but in Windows you can use
Ctrl-Tab and Shift-Ctrl-Tab to migrate between windows within an MDI
application.  Perhaps Squeak could incorporate something similar..?

Bob Jarvis
The Timken Company

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Norton, Chris [SMTP:chrisn at Kronos.com]
> Sent:	Thursday, April 15, 1999 1:03 PM
> To:	'squeak at cs.uiuc.edu'
> Subject:	RE: Re[2]: Thinking about a better UI
> 
> Hear hear!  I constantly have multiple windows open (Squeak and other apps
> too).
> 
> In fact, when I program my Smalltalk in VSE I often have 12 or more
> windows
> open, including several browsers, my sample application(s), inspector(s),
> workspace(s), transcript, window builder(s) and sometimes the debugger.  I
> often feel very hampered in Squeak because it is so hard to organize (on a
> 17" monitor) 2 browsers, a change set, one or more inspectors, etc.., even
> with the screen maximized.  Let's face it:  my eyesight isn't very good; I
> prefer the 800 X 600 setting.
> 
> Unlike the other folks who've participated in this discussion, I often use
> the M$ Alt-Tab (& Alt-Shift-Tab) feature.  I also use the start bar
> buttons
> with great frequency.  There has to be a simpler way to navigate betwixt
> the
> various Squeak windows!  I often "lose" an inspector or workspace behind
> another Squeak window.
> 
> I'd prefer any solution to this problem that can be accessed via the
> keyboard AND the mouse.  To provide only a key board solution or only a
> mouse solution will just frustrate too many people.
> 
> ---==> Chris
> 
> PS>  Let us not forget Morphs.  Whenever I'm working with morphs, I
> inadvertently lose some morphs under others.  There should be a simple way
> of get a list of the available morphs in your project and then getting any
> specific one to move itself to your mouse from wherever it is.  Sometimes
> my
> morphs get put into positions where I can't get at some of their halo
> options too.  The halo mechanism should know that its buttons are off of
> the
> screen and adjust themselves into visible space appropriately.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	Jerome.Garcia at wj.com [SMTP:Jerome.Garcia at wj.com]
> > Sent:	Thursday, April 15, 1999 12:37 PM
> > To:	squeak at cs.uiuc.edu; Peter William Lount
> > Subject:	Re[2]: Thinking about a better UI
> > 
> >      Peter William Lount wrote:
> >      
> >      >
> >      Hey, I DON'T represent that remark! :-b
> >      >
> >      
> >      Hey! Me too, Me too!
> >      
> >      I am very often working with lots of windows associated with at
> least
> > 
> >      3 VisualWORKS images running simultaneously plus MS Word, Adobe 
> >      Acrobat Reader, and InternetExplorer. And yes, I can write
> documents,
> > 
> >      debug code, and alter user interfaces efficiently in this mode and 
> >      therefore prefer it. As Peter, I use the task bar a lot and I want
> to
> > 
> >      choose which windows I bring to the front not have someone
> determine 
> >      what is best for me. I also agree with Peter that it would be nice
> to
> > 
> >      be able to better organize and operate on all of an applications 
> >      windows when desired.
> >      
> >      Just my two cents :-)
> >      
> >      Jerome
> > 
> > 





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