MVC or Morphic (was Re: Achieving escape velocity)

shaping at bigfoot.com shaping at bigfoot.com
Tue Apr 13 14:10:51 UTC 1999


----- Original Message -----
From: Bijan Parsia <bparsia at email.unc.edu>
To: <squeak at cs.uiuc.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 4:29 AM
Subject: MVC or Morphic (was Re: Achieving escape velocity)


>
>
> --On Mon, Apr 12, 1999 11:28 PM -0500 shaping at bigfoot.com wrote:
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Doug Way <dway at mat.net>
> > To: <shaping at bigfoot.com>
> > Cc: <squeak at cs.uiuc.edu>
> > Sent: Monday, April 12, 1999 2:19 PM
> > Subject: Re: Achieving escape velocity
> >
> >
> >>
> >> So many questions!  There probably aren't good answers to all of your
> >> questions, but here are a few, anyway...
> >>
> >> On Sun, 11 Apr 1999 shaping at bigfoot.com wrote:
> >>
> [snip]
> >> Aside from the resizing thing, I generally like working in Morphic more
> >> than MVC, though.
> >>
> > I'm used to using a strict Domain Adaptor Architecture (like that
> > described in Tim Howard's VisualWorks book).  Is there something
> > comparable or better in Squeak.  If I start using MVC while I'm playing
> > with Morphic, will I eventually become disgusted with MVC and abandon
it?
> > Tell me now; save me some time.   Or, do I still get sufficiently
greater
> > performance from MVC to warrant the slower code production (behavior
> > production) rates?
> >
> [snip]
> >> To avoid frustration in general, I would recommend either programming
in
> >> Morphic or MVC, and not mixing the two too much.
> >
> > Sounds like good advice.  Which do you prefer?
> [snip]
>
> Depending on what you're doing, and with some care, it *seems* to be not
> too difficult to use both, reasonably. In particular, the pluggable text,
> list, and button classes are, IIRC, designed to make porting between MVC
> and Morphic fairly straightforward. They are certainly easy enough to use
> in MVC.
>
> For me, right now, given my hardware, MVC is so much faster I generally
> prefer it. For PDAs, again, at least right now AFAIK (and whatever other
> hedges I can add), it's the only way to go.

Does anyone have a favorite sequence of MVC and Morphic exercises, something
you found especially instructive to examine or modify?

Cheers.





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