newbie question (different newbie) - getting changes into Squeak problems

Bijan Parsia bparsia at email.unc.edu
Tue Jul 13 04:57:02 UTC 1999


Peter:

We already have a fork (or two): Stephan Travis Pope's stuff. His goodies
are generally quite nifty, and he keeps them uptodate.

The pluggable text, list, button classes, I believe, started out there, but
became adopted into the main image.

Of course, STP's fork is mostly a way of packaging a bunch of goodies which
one can adopt separately. Perhaps a reasonable "forking" would be a
"Goodies image" that incorporated a significant fraction of the third party
tidbits floating around.

For this two work, there *must* be, IMHO, central editors and a commitment
on the part of the authors to keep things up to date.

One nice thing about the why STP manages things is that you can get an
image with all of his stuff filed in, the indiviudal files, *and* a build
script. I would imagine that such redundancy would be necessary for the
ThirdParty image as well.

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An example of a project which is mostly managed outside Squeak Central yet
is still integral to the standard image is the Pluggable Web Server. Mark
Guzial et the GaTech Squeakers are the primary folks behind it (though the
Centrists do muck with it ;)) and Mark has incorporated changes and fixes
from others.

I totally agree that getting exceptions in would be a very good thing (*I*
really, really, really, really want re-entrent full block closures!, which,
I believe, Craig Latta has also worked on), but, they're a tricky thing.
ANSI compatibiilty would be very nice, but perhaps a completely different
approach would be better (I remember rumblings from the Centrists about
that).

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I think an "enhanced" Squeak is a fine idea. I'd be willing to help manage
it.

Cheers,
Bijan Parisa





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