--On Friday, August 11, 2000, 4:10 PM -0700 Dan Ingalls
<Dan.Ingalls at disney.com> wrote:
[snip]
> I foresee also wanting a "mini" VM that would *lack* all of these, and
> would also *lack* Music synthesis, FFT
>	 Sockets, Async I/O
>	 Balloon, FXBlt
> and would be appropriate to run the "mini" images that allow simple
> Squeak programming in MVC on PDAs without sound and sockets.  Here the VM
> plus image plus adequate headroom want to fit in 1MB.

Dumping sockets actually doesn't seem like such a great idea to me, even
for PDA. Or should I say *espeically* for PDAs. I don't think there are any
PDAs on the market that have a *prayer* of running Squeak that lack a
TCP/IP stack (even the Palms do), and wireless is becoming more popular.

Acutally, that's pretty much true for sound, too. TCP/IP support goes on
wince goes way back, so I think you'd be hard put to find a machine that
lacked it.

Or are you just saying that Sockets should be in an external plugin for
PDAs? How much overhead do sockets add?

Cheers,
Bijan Parsia.