Squeak IDE Look-n-Feel

Ted Wright wright at en.com
Tue Dec 12 01:46:48 UTC 2000


ajalis at twu.net wrote:
>On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 05:27:30PM -0500, Ted Wright wrote:
> > However, when I tried to identify exactly what the problem was, I decided that 
> > "native widgets" like Asim suggested were not the answer. I don't want Squeak 
> > to look like Windows, or KDE, or Swing or whatever. VisualWorks does the native 
> > widget emulation thing well, and still does not look all that good. I want Squeak to 
> > look better than any of these.
>
>How about integrating Squeak with WxWindows (http://www.wxwindows.org). 

I don't think it is a good match. I have some experience with using wxWindows
with Python. Squeak is far more portable, and already provides the wxWindows
features except native widgets. Because it support so many native widgets,
wxWindows has a least-common-denominator feel to it. wxWindows also has 
a very Microsoft MFC feel to it (which I don't like). 

Squeak, especially Morphic, is different. Squeak seems to want to push the 
envelope on GUI matters, and this just doesn't fit in well with native widgets. 

There was an effort to use Squeak with native GTK and QT widgets a while 
ago, but it looks like it fizzled out. I didn't actually use it, but I got the idea
that it was mostly a way to do GTK programming in Smalltalk, as opposed
to a way of doing GUI programming in Squeak. It might be useful for some
things, but it would not push the envelope.


Ted Wright	mailto:wright at en.com





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