[Fwd: Re: Time to revisit newsgroup status]

Les Tyrrell tyrrell at canis.uiuc.edu
Fri Feb 18 00:49:11 UTC 2000


Stephen Pair wrote:
> 
> Does eGroups (or similar) not fill the bill for those who prefer not to be
> subscribed via email?

I believe that the current eGroup for Squeak only goes back to something
like November 98 - that omits the first 1 1/4 years.

I still vote for the mail list, though.  Actually, what I'd really like
to do is set up a better e-mail archive at UIUC.  Unfortunately, while
I'm more than happy to help with that and in a position to do so, I'm
really time-constrained right now.  But perhaps it could be done by
sometime this summer- I have many of the major pieces: what appears
to be a complete set of messages, an EMail parser that I wrote ( for
just such an emergency ) an inverted indexing system, and WikiWorks.
I'd have to add something to WikiWorks to handle the sorts of queries
and results that would be needed to support this, and of course there
is the issue of keeping such an archive up to date... I don't have
any POP or IMAP clients that I've written, but there are folks out
there ( and code in Squeak, for that matter ) with stuff like that.

On a longer time scale, I think it would be a good idea for folks
to come up with ideas about how we might liberate ourselves from
the limitations imposed upon us by an (e-mail/newsgroup/www/wiki) model.
If there are folks out there who work on electronic discourse models,
or other means of electronic collaboration, or have thoughts on what
they need out of such things, then I'd reccomend starting a wiki
page about that on minnow.  FWIW, I have some thoughts on what I'd
like part of that to be like at:

  http://oasis.canis.uiuc.edu:8080/Squeak/The+Visible+Squeak


-les





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