> >
> >I agree with you.  This seems to be a commonly stated view on this list, but
> >there seems to be some kind of historical momentum built up which is not
> >going away in a hurry.  On one level that is fair enough too if that is what
> >the people who do the work want (the open source do it yourself philosophy).
> 
> This is a mistaken view.  Nobody thinks that Squeak "needs" to look 
> any way.  Its just that everyone has a different view as to what are 
> the priorities.  The vast majority of contributors here are 
> interested in the "innards," knowing they are capable of making it 
> look any way they want for meaningful application cases.
> 
> Whether or not the failure to see what Squeak can be "made to be" in 
> terms of appearance is a failure of imagination, the real bottom line 
> is this:  If you don't like how it looks, fix it!

Thanks for the failure :( I was just about dreaming about a possible Squeak 
look that give energy to people. 

This is too easy to say do it!  Since I'm working in Smalltalk everybody say
that:  Just do it then what everybody is doing his own cool goody great!  So if
you are not interested to have a real look and prefer innards this is ok for me.
I'm personaly not a UI guy but more meta and compiler driven so what!!!!!!!!
This is not the point!!

THE POINT IS : lot of people have already made some good stuff. 
and a selection phase could occur to select some 
Squeak look and feel that are qui te more beautiful than the basic 
old fashioned GUI. 




> That is the mantra of the Open Source movement.  Squeak is whatever 
> you want it to be.  There are many widget sets out there, and many 
> ways to duplicate existing OS looks and feel.  Rewriting MacOS or 
> Windows isn't really of interest to some, but may be to others.
> 
> If you are one of the others, by all means, please do it.
> 
> The long and short of it is this -- in an open source project, the 
> community decides its priorities, but on an individual by individual 
> basis.  We all have different views what things should be done next. 
> If yours is pretty widgets, make 'em.
> 
> That's the open source way.
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might not be your last day on earth" Calvin&Hobbes

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