if Alan say that.... this should be right.

Sorry I could not resist to that :)

Seriously I agree.
The idea is not to copy anything but look at the transparent look 
or the skins are this is better than this current look 
> 
> I think this is a good route (one of them anyway ...). I'd like to 
> see Squeak have a nice look -- but I don't have any particular 
> interest in imitating Mac or Windows (both of which I think are 
> pretty ugly). Can the Squeak list put forth some designs that are 
> more than skins?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Alan
> 
> ------
> 
> At 10:29 AM +1000 6/21/00, Mike Thomas wrote:
> >Hi Stephan.
> >
> >I agree with you.  This seems to be a commonly stated view on this list, but
> >there seems to be some kind of historical momentum built up which is not
> >going away in a hurry.  On one level that is fair enough too if that is what
> >the people who do the work want (the open source do it yourself philosophy).
> >
> >The cutting edge in "attractive" look-and-feel for me is game interfaces,
> >especially from a childs point of view.  The integration of nice images into
> >a UI is a great way to invite the user in.  Kai's Power Tools also had some
> >revolutionary and much copied ideas.  Some of the latest music software is
> >starting to "get down" with interesting and inviting interfaces.
> >
> >For business users/office types, the native OS look and feel are essential,
> >especially "the 3D look", restrained (dare I say tasteful) default colours,
> >and menus and mouse button actions which reflect common interaction idioms.
> >
> >Cheers
> >
> >Mike Thomas.
> 

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