I would put more emphasis on "J" of the jpython than the python part.
Python and Squeak are pretty much similar in terms of dynamic late
binding. Does not bring much value having one dynamic language on
another. On the other hand, java has gained much momentum that would be
foolish to ignore.

-Brian Zhou

----- Original Message -----
From: "Stefan Matthias Aust" <sma at 3plus4.de>
To: <squeak at cs.uiuc.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: jpython anyone?


> At 20:02 22.11.00 +0100, Cees de Groot wrote:
>
> >Sounds like a worthwhile project. I guess a simple start would indeed
be
> >a plugin and a bit of primitive data marshalling so that you could
> >send messages to a Java VM. Shouldn't be too hard.
>
> As long as you can't do callbacks into the Smalltalk VM (and I don't
think
> this has been implemented yet) you don't get far.  I would even want
to
> start.
>
> (Actually, I'd really like to be able to use not Java but GNOME on
Unix
> with Squeak but that's another story which isn't possible yet)
>
> >However, chances are that you don't feel like Java programming
anymore
> >after a bit more Smalltalk exposure, so this project risks an early
> >death ;-)
>
> I really like Smalltalk and Squeak but I prefer Java for all serious
work
> as it has all the needed libraries (starting with JDBC but everything
from
> Swing to EJB) you'd have to reinvent for Squeak.
>
> We did one commercial project with Squeak at Baltic Online (the
company I
> work for) and I'm really glad it's done.  While it was fun to develop
in
> Squeak and we were very fast at the beginning, problems like
unreliable
> socket connections on Linux, stupid requesters in file IO, poorly
> implemented network libraries etc slowed us down and we'd have been
faster
> in Java (or Python) probably.  I'm sorry to say so.
>
> bye
> Stefan Matthias Aust // Pilgrims, beware of the Dark between the
Fading Stars
>
>