Hmmm.  Good points.  I still like TimeStamp, though.

Maybe if we had DateAndTime defined as a subclass of Magnitude and TimeStamp
as a subclass of DateAndTime we'd have ANSI compatibility as well as nice
looking code.  I can tell you that VSE does not implement DateAndTime.
Guess that means that it's not ANSI compliant.  I wonder how many STs are
compliant...

Well, I'm off to OOPSLA, so I won't be responsive to any replies until next
Thursday.  Hope y'all have a nice week and maybe I'll see you at the Squeak
BOF in MN!  :-)

Cheers,

---==> Chris

PS>  In any case, I still recommend TimeStamp as a candidate for the base
image.  VSE folks need it to be there for portability.

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Lex Spoon [SMTP:lex at cc.gatech.edu]
> Sent:	Friday, October 13, 2000 12:51 PM
> To:	squeak at cs.uiuc.edu
> Subject:	RE: [GOODIE] TimeStamp -- why isn't this already in Squeak?
> 
> Well, the point is, Squeak sorta *does* have a class floating around
> that combines a date, time, and a timezone.  It's just not been
> integrated.  People trying to use Squeak for business-style apps should
> surely be loading the ANSI extensions, though, integrated or no.  In
> fact, it doesn't *seem* to cause any harm, in the bit I've used it.
> 
> "Timestamp" does have a nicer ring to it....  But if both classes are
> the same, it would seem good to just have one of them.
> 
> 
> -Lex
> 
> 
> 
> "Norton, Chris" <chrisn at Kronos.com> wrote:
> > Hi Lex.
> > 
> > I don't know what the ANSI spec says in this case, but I can tell you
> that
> > TimeStamp is a base class in Visual Smalltalk Enterprise and that it is
> a
> > generally useful concept.  I've been using them for years "on the job".
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > ---==> Chris
> > 
> > PS>  I really do like the term "TimeStamp" over "DateAndTime".  It just
> has
> > a better sound to me.  :-)
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:	Lex Spoon [SMTP:lex at cc.gatech.edu]
> > > Sent:	Friday, October 13, 2000 7:31 AM
> > > To:	squeak at cs.uiuc.edu
> > > Subject:	Re: [GOODIE] TimeStamp -- why isn't this already in Squeak?
> > > 
> > > Is your TimeStamp what ANSI would call a DateAndTime?  That is, a
> > > specific time on a specific day?  If so, then someone has already
> > > implemented all the ANSI stuff, including DateAndTime.  Also, someone
> > > has long ago implemented basic timezone support for DateAndTime's.
> > > 
> > > The fear is that the ANSI stuff is so much code, that when it gets
> > > loaded into Squeak, tons of stuff is going to break.  And besides
> that,
> > > SC is chasing much more exciting problems right now...
> > > 
> > > Sorry I don't have the exact URL handy.  (Someone should add it to the
> > > Swiki AllProjects page so that people can find it)
> > > 
> > > -Lex
> > > 
> > >
>