Alan Kay Alan.Kay at disney.com
Tue Sep 12 16:11:48 UTC 2000

Yes, I am.




At 8:32 AM -0500 9/12/00, James Foster wrote:
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>>  Today, and always, I wish you Peace @ His Feet!
>>  ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>>  From: Aaron J Reichow <reic0024 at d.umn.edu>
>>  Reply-To: squeak at cs.uiuc.edu
>>  Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 22:54:01 -0500 (CDT)
>>  >On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, pu tizi wrote:
>>  >
>>  >> Gentlemen:
>>  >
>>  >There may be lades on this list as well...
>>  >
>>  >> Yes, Squeak is a cool system to all platforms. But will that prevents
>>  >> us from extend its usage into some wonderful new area? I mean we might
>>  >> someday make the full out of it ON some SPECIAL OS platform, just once,
>>  >> to see something interesting that would happen:
>>  >> Who would be so kind to make a SmallTalkSHell(STSH) for, let's say,
>>  >> the Linux or BSD system just using Squeak? That will yield us:
>>  >>
>>  >> 2.We will change the whole filesystem into a somekind of object
>>  >> look, an objectsystem, you may call it and
>>  >
>>  >I was actually considering something like this, whilst thinking about an
>>  >object oriented operating system.  As I would see it, when you'd first
>>  >stsh, it'd start out a server image, and some small C program would
>>  >connect to this server.  The server image would control all local stsh
>>  >sessions, and would essentially be an object database.  There's also the
>>  >possibility, that in this small client (whether it's in C, Smalltalk or
>>  >anything else) could connect to remote stsh server images.
>>  >
>>  >Perhaps even file management operations would be managed in a
>>  >Smalltalk-like syntax, z.b.-
>>  >
>>  >stsh$ funky.txt cp: /mnt/floppy
>>  >stsh$ moo.ps mv: ~/docs
>>  >stsh$ .stshrc rm
>>  >
>>  >But at the same time, a user could choose to use the normal UNIX
>>  >If the leftmost token is not the name of an object in the system, then
>>  >search the path for a command of that name, and pass it the parameters
>>  >that followed it.  If not, spit out an error.
>>  >
>>  >> 4.cd to some object as if a directory then talk to it and
>>  >> 5.reuse the whole GNU/Linux in an odd way, for example:
>>  >> $ cd Object
>>  >> $ ls
>>  >> while $ implies Smalltalk now, and
>>  >
>>  >That would, in a sense, violate fundementals of OO (encapsulation), but
>>  >interesting.  A user could be able to store objects as files (serialized
>>  >to a file, but instantiated within stsh when the user is running a
>>  >shell, probably persistently).
>>  >
>>  >> 9.we, perhaps, could make it possible that other langues might feel it
>>  >> more comfortabl and easier to run in our Shell environment! :=(
>>  >
>>  >Perhaps you should check out GNU Smalltalk- more unixy, command line
>>  >and all.  A stsh would probably be easier to do in GNU Smalltalk anyway.
>>  >
>>  >So many great ideas... I wonder if this stuff is good for various
>>  >degrees, got to start thinking, even though I'm only a sophmore. ;)
>>  >
>>  >Aaron
>>  >
>>  >

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