Sharing with you my enthousiasm
Doug Way
dway at riskmetrics.com
Thu Apr 26 06:17:52 UTC 2001
Stephane Ducasse wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I discovered recently the Blue Look of Henrik Gedenryd
> and the Morph Dock developed by Jim Benson.
> Thanks for you have made, I have a much better feeling when developing in
> Squeak.
>
> I really like the result. I was wondering why the Blue Look of Henrik
> could not serve as the base for a better environment for advanced people.
>
> What is the status of the collect of several UI propositions to elect one.
> Doug have you made progess? Have you look at the Blue Look?
I haven't worked on my UI look recently, except to update it to work with 3.1alpha. (It's at http://www.mindspring.com/~dway/smalltalk/squeakchangesets/NewLook1-3848.1.cs if anyone wants to play with it.) Now that's it current with the latest alpha release I may try to work on it some more, though.
Henrik's Blue Look is very nice, nicer than the look I was working on in some respects. Mainly, he addressed the look of the scrollbars and the menus, which I hadn't gotten to. Also, the #inset look for the window subpane borders looks good (although I think #raised looks pretty good too). The alpha blending is cool, but should probably be a preference.
On the other hand, I'm trying to make my changeset look good with the multi-colored windows of Squeak, which I think is probably a necessary requirement for getting it accepted by SqC & the community. (This may be why the Blue Look was never adopted as the default base image look. Well, probably also because it didn't support 8-bit very well (or 1-bit at all).) Also, with my look I did a little extra work on the window titlebar widgets... although I wouldn't mind going with something simpler if we had to.
I may try to integrate some aspects of the Blue Look into the look I was working on, to try to get the best of both (and maybe have a few combinations of alternatives). I think it should be possible to get something together that we can all more or less agree on. There's still some stuff to do, though:
- menus and scrollbars (possibly do something similar to Blue Look)
- rounded corners would need a little extra work
- buttons should fit the look (at least the ones that appear in the optionalButtons panes)
- stuff should still look reasonable in 8-bit mode, and at least be readable in 1-bit mode
I think that's about it. Perhaps now is the time to try to finish this off...
- Doug Way
dway at riskmetrics.com
> May be a look is a bit too blue and some minor suggestions for improvement
> could be collected.
>
> I usually do not like to send file into the mailing list but I really want
> that everybody can see the result of the combination of the two changesets.
> What is see is that I iconized a browser and that this browser went into the
> dock then moving my mouse over it I can see what I was browsing.
>
> Stef
>
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