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Stephane Ducasse
ducasse at iam.unibe.ch
Mon Apr 30 08:55:02 UTC 2001
on 4/26/01 2:45 PM, Henrik Gedenryd at Henrik.Gedenryd at lucs.lu.se wrote:
> Bijan Parsia wrote:
>
>> Now, testing for beginsWith: 'Morphic' gets us:
>>
>> 3379693
>>
>> Bloat at last!!!
>>
>> But gee, to echo your point, Morphic is a *lot* of stuff. There's a PDA, a
>> bunch of games, a EPS outputter, a set of interface widgets (a lot of
>> which are in use in my system, since I'm running in morphic and have a
>> gazillion windows open, etc.).
>
> Right, a lot of stuff, and I've said this before: most of this is not
> Morphic per se, but applications of it. The PDA and the games are typical
> goodies, and so on. Calling these "Morphic" is as logical as if every use of
> MVC would become a part of MVC itself.
>
> And the whole eToy system has nothing to do with Morphic per se. In fact, a
> lot of newcomers are confused (and I sure was) since there is no clear line
> between Morphic and eToy. So when there are really just a few things to
> learn, you have no way of knowing what that is. Etoy is clearly in the
> domain of SqC's own experimentation, and I've said before that it should be
> kept separate. In Stable Squeak I'm pretty sure this will happen. I think
> this alone would cut the number of methods in Morph to less than half of
> what it is now.
And this would be great to have classes that have less than 200 methods ;).
In the same idea, I strongly think that string does not have to know
asURL
as....
asblabla
Because then everything is linked together.
>
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