The more I work with the Squeak VM the more I realise it isn't truly virtual: it has real world restrictions and expectations. 

surprise surprise.

you could write segmented architecture support for Squeak...  but why perpetuate the brain damage that kind of segmentation represents?

But Squeak runs on DOS, and I'm reasonably sure I heard of there being a package for using Squeak on Palm. 

regards,
Darrell

4/13/01 9:17:34 AM, Delbert Murphy <dmurphy at infratecture.com> wrote:

>Hi Mark,
>
>Just in case this is a little unclear--the PalmOS memory architecture is dumb because it is segmented--meaning that if you have an 8-MB palm machine (or Visor) 
Squeak cannot address all 8 MB at the same time.  Squeak needs to address the PalmOS memory in segments (chunks).  This is a major pain for a Virtual Machine 
like Squeak's which expects to address a flat memory space.  A flat memory space is one where you can get to all 8 MB of memory at one time--instead of loading 
segments.  The iPaq or other WinCE or Pocket PC machines use the flat memory model, which Squeak likes better.
>
>HTH,
>Delbert
>
>
>On Fri, 13 April 2001, Alan Kay wrote:
>
>> 
>> The problem is not so much with the size of the Palm, but the dumb 
>> memory architecture that they chose. Why not try an iPAC or 
>> equivalent?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Alan
>> 
>> ------
>> 
>> At 2:14 PM -0700 4/13/01, Mark Polishook wrote:
>> >I'm wondering - is anyone running Squeak within the PalmOs? Can it be slimmed
>> >down to do so? I teach  composition (music) and have a grant to equip my
>> >student composers with PDAs (most likely Palms or Visors). I'd like to use
>> >Squeak as a "composers assistant" to the extent that this is possible within
>> >the PalmOs ... assuming, of course, that Squeak can run there in the 1st
>> >place.
>> >
>> >Any suggestions or leads on this would be much appreciated.
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >
>> >Mark
>> >
>> >*** *** *** ***
>> >Mark Polishook
>> >Director, Composition/Theory Program
>> >Music Department
>> >Central Washington University
>> >E. 8th Avenue
>> >Ellensburg, WA 98926
>> >
>> >tel: 509 963 1245
>> >fax: 509.963.1239
>> >polishoo at cwu.edu
>> >www.cwu.edu/~music/composition
>
>




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