Thank you Lex for this email and the previous. There seems a lot there and
I'll probably need to see what I can do on localhost and then take it from
there.

Regards,
Gary


----- Original Message -----
From: "Lex Spoon" <lex at cc.gatech.edu>
To: <squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: Squeak instead of Servlets


>
> "Gary McGovern" <garywork at lineone.net> wrote:
> >  "Cees de Groot" wrote:
> >
> >
> > > It's still not completely complete, but you can find a lot of stuff to
> > help
> > > Squeak on the Net in Comanche. Servlets are the basic and standard way
any
> > > object system will want to publish to the net, so even if Comanche
doesn't
> > > follow any standards, it's quite accessible. The equivalent of JSP is
SSP,
> > > implemented by Stephen Pair for Squeak - it should be part of Comanche
by
> > now
> > > or at the very least quickly become part of it (there were some
> > > interoperability problems).
> >
> > That's interesting. Would I be right in thinking there are two separate
and
> > distinct comanchies ? I just installed comanche today with apache but it
> > didn't seem to have any relevance to Squeak. But it was a version over a
> > year old.
> >
> > > The biggest thing missing is the possibility to put Squeak behind
> > > a Webserver via a custom CGI script or - better - something like
> > > FCGI. VisualWorks has this in the upcoming release, and especially
FCGI
> > > with 'auto-start' (I think that's part of the FCGI spec - what I mean
> > > is that on the first FCGI request, the CGI script starts the server if
> > > it's not already running) would be a nice way to deploy Smalltalk with
> > > any Apache hoster.
> >
> > Do you know of any work being done on this ? I like to think of Squeak
as an
> > environment of plasticity (ie to shape to any task), do you think that
goes
> > against the grain of most work being done?
> >
>
> It does go against the grain: the mechanisms are particular to
> individual platforms!  On one platform FCGI talks over stdin/stdout, and
> on another it talks over a loopback socket, and on others it can be
> implemented in still other ways.  The only IPC mechanism available
> everywhere is TCP/IP, and that's what Comanche uses by default.
>
> If platform specificity is okay with you, then FCGI sounds like a fine
> way to hook Squeak to Apache.  Check out OSProcess to get started, so
> that you can actually talk to stdin and stdout.
>
>
> -Lex
>
>
>