On Thu, 09 Aug 2001 13:18:23 +0100, you wrote:

> Well. I know computing courses where students are graduates with
> programming experience where the failure rate (that is, drop outs and
> students who don't pass) is 40%. While that certainly isn't all down to
> failures of the teaching method/methodology, I do think it should give
> us pause for thought. 

Well, at Carleton University, when I was in first year, there were
about 110 first year CS students, and less than 45 made it into 2nd
year...

The funny thing was, the course that was mostly responsible for that
was not a CS course -- it was first year calculus...

Later,
Jon