I can't begin to tell you how exciting it is to see these super-powers 
of language design putting their collective heads together on these 
important questions.  Who says an open source collaborative model 
doesn't work?

I'm not worthy!

Welcome, and thanks.
A

On Thursday, August 16, 2001, at 12:49 PM, Allen Wirfs-Brock wrote:

> Since Dan and Dave Thomas asked me to participate in this discussion 
> I've been thinking how I could best contribute.  As I'm not going to 
> have the time to actually implement anything I think the roles I can 
> probably play are tour guide and ideologist.  This is a lot of work, 
> good ideas, and experience both inside and outside the Smalltalk 
> community relating to modularity.  As a tour guide I can make some of 
> this visible and perhaps provide some interpretation.
>
> Smalltalk is built upon an ideology of objects. The ideology binds the 
> community giving them a common perspective on computing and a common 
> language to communicate about computation. In looking at the on going 
> discussions on the [Modules] topic it's easy to see that there isn't 
> yet a common ideology of Modules for Squeak.  You need one!
>
> The potential scope covered by the subject heading "modularity" is 
> huge.  It essentially covers every aspect of what used to be call 
> "programming in large". As I was composing my thoughts on things I 
> would like to share with this list I realized that I was developing the 
> mental outline of what could be a book length work.  In order to make 
> progress we are going to have to focus on the essentials.  Henrick has 
> already said as much:
>
>> I previously (off-list, not your fault that you didn't get it) argued 
>> that
>> we need to modularize the modularity effort itself, if we are to ever 
>> get
>> anything done. To do so we need separable, small, incremental steps. 
>> We need
>> to identify  the 'core' that must be done and should be done first.
>
> I heartily agree. I would urge everybody with an interest in this area 
> to focus, for the next few weeks, on defining that core.
>
> Allen
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