I bumped into this and thought it would have made a nice header for Alan
Kay's foreward to Mark Guzdial's "white" book. (Alan talks of computer
engineering, even computer science, as still being an oxymoron.)

 A physicist, an engineer, and a computer scientist were
     discussing the nature of God.  Surely a Physicist, said the
     physicist, because early in the Creation, God made Light; and you
     know, Maxwell's equations, the dual nature of electro-magnetic
     waves, the relativist consequences... An Engineer!, said the
     engineer, because before making Light, God split the Chaos into
     Land and Water; it takes a hell of an engineer to handle that big
     amount of mud, and orderly separation of solids from
     liquids... The computer scientist shouted: And the Chaos,
     where do you think it was coming from, hmm?
     
     ---Anonymous

Lex might be amused to discover that this is actually quoted in info
autoconf! Aha!!!!

Cheers

John
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