Thanks, Yoshiki. Yes, you're right, a lot of what I want to do could be done
in elisp using emacs as the platform, but then I have no way to tie in nice
gui components, which seems a shame in the 21st century. I've thought about
using gnuserv, I don't know if that will be flexible enough to be really
usable. "Reimplement the whole thing" -- I'm not sure what you mean. Emacs?

I guess I need to play around w/ squeak and see if I like it enough to want
to hack the emacs stuff...

Thanks again.



Yoshiki Ohshima wrote:

>   Hello,
>
> > I have noticed several threads in the archives where people ask about
> > integrating emacs into Squeak. The standard answer seems to be: why
> > would you want to do that when the built-in editor is so nice?
>
>   Is it really seems the standard answer? :-) I actually
> think the integration has a good point.  I
> imagine that it would be nice if I don't have to move my
> hands from the home position of keyboard, yet I still have
> the full control of all Browsers, Inspectors, Workspaces,
> etc.  (mouse-less Squeak?)
>
> #   When Nemacs 3.3.2 (based on GNU Emacs 18.55) was the
> # latest, I read all of the 'info' and tried to do the
> # examples in it.  It was real "wower" for me.
>
> > As a pre-newbie thinking about starting up in squeak, here's one reason:
> > I'm looking for a platform where I can develop generic info management
> > tools. The ability to plug in an editor with the power of emacs and the
> > extensive package library of emacs is almost a sine qua non... So I'm
> > wondering... how possible would this be to do? Does it even make sense
> > to think about doing it?
>
>   I'm sorry but I don't understand what you want to do
> well...  If I understand correctly, you could implement it
> in Emacs-lisp:-)
>
>   Anyway, I think there are several possibilities to
> integrate Squeak and Emacs.
>
>   0.  Implement some basic key combination in
>       ParagraphEditor.   ...
>
>   1.  Inferior-Squeak mode.  (This doesn't mean that Squeak
>       is inferior:-)  By Using OSProcess, use stdin/stdout
>       as a log of a Workspace.  This one itself doesn't
>       make much sense.
>
>   2.  text fragment by text fragment editing in Emacs.  Run
>       gnuserv in Emacs and Squeak "asks" the Emacs to edit a
>       certain fragment of text.  If the method is lengthy,
>       or you want to perform some decent operation such as
>       query-replace-regexp or dabbrev-expand, having this
>       *option* is a plus.  One downside is you cannot
>       evaluate code fragment while you're writing the code,
>       but 1. would help it.
>
> The above three should be not so difficult to do.
>
>   3.  Write a Lisp interpreter in Squeak.  This would be a
>       smooth approach, although there would be lots of labor
>       if you want to run pretty large part of emacs-lisp
>       libraries.
>
>   4.  Reimplement everything in Squeak.  more labor will be
>       needed than 3. but more cleaner implementation.  (I
>       wish someone would do this:-)
>
>   -- Yoshiki