Forwarding this message to the list for Bruce...


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [PROBLEM] A question about installing Squeak2.8 on Linux
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 01:21:48 -0800 (PST)
From: Bruce O'Neel <bruce_oneel at yahoo.com>
To: Doug Way <dway at riskmetrics.com>, squeak at cs.uiuc.edu,beoneel at mindspring.com

Hi,
  I'll do that this weekend.  Doug, could you forward
this to the mail list since this email address is not
on it and I'm traveling.  Bloody hotel PBXes, bloody
wrong modem power adapter :-)

cheers

bruce

--- Doug Way <dway at riskmetrics.com> wrote:
> 
> It might worth it for Bruce O'Neel (or anyone who
> has access) to rename the Squeak-2-sources.tar.gz
> file to SqueakV2.sources.gz on the ftp site to avoid
> these repeated questions/problems. (especially since
> this file will be around for the remainder of Squeak
> 2.x)
> 
> - Doug Way
>   dway at riskmetrics.com
> 
> 
> John Chludzinski wrote:
> > 
> > It appears that when installing Squeak 2.8 on
> Linux you are asked to download 3 files:
> > 
> > Squeak-2.8pre3-i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.gz
> > Squeak-2.8pre3-image.tar.gz
> > Squeak-2-sources.tar.gz
> > 
> > The file: Squeak-2-sources.tar.gz is suppose to
> contain
> > Squeak-2/SqueakV2.sources BUT after I 'un-gzipped'
> and tried to 'untar'
> > it, I found it wasn't a 'tar' archive.  It's
> actually the file:
> > SqueakV2.sources.  I ended up manually placing and
> renaming it as:
> > //usr/local/lib/squeak/SqueakV2.sources.
> > 
> > Am I missing something?  Isn't INSTALL supposed to
> handle this?
> > 
> > ---John
> 
> "William J. DeMeo" wrote:
> > 
> > Here's some excerpts of an older thread concerning
> the same problem.
> > 
> > Original message header
> > ------------------------
> > Subject: Squeak 2.8 Linux install problem
> > Resent-Date: 9 Dec 2000 22:58:17 -0000
> > Resent-From: squeak at cs.uiuc.edu
> > Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 17:58:22 -0500
> > From: David Relson <relson at osagesoftware.com>
> > 
> > Original message
> > -----------------
> > David Relson wrote:
> > >
> > > Greetings,
> > >
> > > I'm attempting to install Squeak on my Linux
> box.  I'm using
> > > ftp://st.cs.uiuc.edu/pub/Smalltalk/Squeak/2.8 as
> my data source.
> > >
> > > As my first shot, I downloaded all the
> Squeak*2.8*rpm files.  The install
> > > fails (see below) due to a missing file - which
> is not on the ftp site.
> > >
> > >      [root at osage Squeak]# rpm -ivh
> Squeak-2.8-3.i386.rpm
> > > Squeak-image-2.8-3.noarch.rpm
> > >      error: failed dependencies:
> > >              Squeak-sources is needed by
> Squeak-2.8-3
> > >
> > > For my second shot, I figured to use tarballs. 
> However
> > > Squeak-2-sources.tar.gz appears to be corrupt:
> > >
> > >      [root at osage Squeak]# ls -l
> Squeak-2-sources.tar.gz
> > >      -rw-r--r--    1 root     root      1361812
> Dec  9 17:26
> > ? Squeak-2-sources.tar.gz
> > ?
> > ?      [root at osage Squeak]# sum
> Squeak-2-sources.tar.gz
> > ?      08348  1330
> > ?
> > ?      [root at osage Squeak]# tar ztvf
> Squeak-2-sources.tar.gz
> > ?      tar: This does not look like a tar archive
> > ?      tar: Skipping to next header
> > ?      tar: 163 garbage bytes ignored at end of
> archive
> > ?      tar: Error exit delayed from previous
> errors
> > ?
> > ? Can someone please point me towards a better
> source for Squeak?
> > ?
> > ? Thank you.
> > ?
> > ? David
> > 
> > First reply
> > -----------
> > If I remember correctly from my install
> experience, the sources file is
> > misnamed.  It is not a tar archive, it is just a
> compressed file.  Just
> > uncompress the file and rename it to
> SqueakV2.sources.
> > 
> > Avi
> > 
> > Second reply
> > ------------
> > Yes.  Same was true for me (ie the file is
> misnamed).  I suppose one
> > could rename the file to one with no extension and
> use the "file"
> > command on the new name to see what it is.
> > ?snip?
> > 
> > Third reply
> > -----------
> > Thanks for the info that Squeak-2-sources.tar.gz
> is the needed source
> > file,
> > merely misnamed.  Guess I'll have to download all
> the tarballs since the
> > rpm system isn't willing to believe that I don't
> need the sources.rpm it
> > wants.
> > 
> > David
> > 
> > Fourth reply
> > ------------
> > rpm has some options for forcing an install when
> you are certain that
> > the stated dependencies are not really necessary. 
> I think the option is
> > -f but look at the man page to be sure.  But
> you're probably better off
> > installing from source anyway.
> > 
> > Fifth reply
> > -----------
> > I tried the --force option and rpm was still
> unwilling to install the
> > package.  Rereading the man page, it seems that
> --force may only apply
> > to
> > forcing upgrades (as compared to forcing an
> install).  Come to think of
> > it,
> > it might be possible to install 2.7 and upgrade
> ...  Probably not worth
> > it.  I'm gonna go the tarball route.
> > 
> > Sixth reply
> > -----------
> > You should use --nodeps in order to ignore
> dependencies.
> > 
> > Avi
> > 
> > Final reply
> > -----------
> > Try the 2.7 rpms - worked a treat for me under
> Mandrake 7.x using
> > kpackage.
> > 
> > Sean
> 
> 


=====
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