[Fwd: Re: [PROBLEM] A question about installing Squeak2.8 on Linux]

Bruce ONeel beoneel at mindspring.com
Mon Jan 15 09:46:31 UTC 2001


Hi,
  Thanks for forwarding it.  This is fixed now.

cheers

bruce

Doug Way <dway at riskmetrics.com> wrote:
> 
> Forwarding this message to the list for Bruce...
> 
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [PROBLEM] A question about installing Squeak2.8 on Linux
> Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 01:21:48 -0800 (PST)
> From: Bruce O'Neel <bruce_oneel at yahoo.com>
> To: Doug Way <dway at riskmetrics.com>, squeak at cs.uiuc.edu,beoneel at mindspring.com
> 
> Hi,
>   I'll do that this weekend.  Doug, could you forward
> this to the mail list since this email address is not
> on it and I'm traveling.  Bloody hotel PBXes, bloody
> wrong modem power adapter :-)
> 
> cheers
> 
> bruce
> 
> --- Doug Way <dway at riskmetrics.com> wrote:
> > 
> > It might worth it for Bruce O'Neel (or anyone who
> > has access) to rename the Squeak-2-sources.tar.gz
> > file to SqueakV2.sources.gz on the ftp site to avoid
> > these repeated questions/problems. (especially since
> > this file will be around for the remainder of Squeak
> > 2.x)
> > 
> > - Doug Way
> >   dway at riskmetrics.com
> > 
> > 
> > John Chludzinski wrote:
> > > 
> > > It appears that when installing Squeak 2.8 on
> > Linux you are asked to download 3 files:
> > > 
> > > Squeak-2.8pre3-i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.gz
> > > Squeak-2.8pre3-image.tar.gz
> > > Squeak-2-sources.tar.gz
> > > 
> > > The file: Squeak-2-sources.tar.gz is suppose to
> > contain
> > > Squeak-2/SqueakV2.sources BUT after I 'un-gzipped'
> > and tried to 'untar'
> > > it, I found it wasn't a 'tar' archive.  It's
> > actually the file:
> > > SqueakV2.sources.  I ended up manually placing and
> > renaming it as:
> > > //usr/local/lib/squeak/SqueakV2.sources.
> > > 
> > > Am I missing something?  Isn't INSTALL supposed to
> > handle this?
> > > 
> > > ---John
> > 
> > "William J. DeMeo" wrote:
> > > 
> > > Here's some excerpts of an older thread concerning
> > the same problem.
> > > 
> > > Original message header
> > > ------------------------
> > > Subject: Squeak 2.8 Linux install problem
> > > Resent-Date: 9 Dec 2000 22:58:17 -0000
> > > Resent-From: squeak at cs.uiuc.edu
> > > Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 17:58:22 -0500
> > > From: David Relson <relson at osagesoftware.com>
> > > 
> > > Original message
> > > -----------------
> > > David Relson wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Greetings,
> > > >
> > > > I'm attempting to install Squeak on my Linux
> > box.  I'm using
> > > > ftp://st.cs.uiuc.edu/pub/Smalltalk/Squeak/2.8 as
> > my data source.
> > > >
> > > > As my first shot, I downloaded all the
> > Squeak*2.8*rpm files.  The install
> > > > fails (see below) due to a missing file - which
> > is not on the ftp site.
> > > >
> > > >      [root at osage Squeak]# rpm -ivh
> > Squeak-2.8-3.i386.rpm
> > > > Squeak-image-2.8-3.noarch.rpm
> > > >      error: failed dependencies:
> > > >              Squeak-sources is needed by
> > Squeak-2.8-3
> > > >
> > > > For my second shot, I figured to use tarballs. 
> > However
> > > > Squeak-2-sources.tar.gz appears to be corrupt:
> > > >
> > > >      [root at osage Squeak]# ls -l
> > Squeak-2-sources.tar.gz
> > > >      -rw-r--r--    1 root     root      1361812
> > Dec  9 17:26
> > > ? Squeak-2-sources.tar.gz
> > > ?
> > > ?      [root at osage Squeak]# sum
> > Squeak-2-sources.tar.gz
> > > ?      08348  1330
> > > ?
> > > ?      [root at osage Squeak]# tar ztvf
> > Squeak-2-sources.tar.gz
> > > ?      tar: This does not look like a tar archive
> > > ?      tar: Skipping to next header
> > > ?      tar: 163 garbage bytes ignored at end of
> > archive
> > > ?      tar: Error exit delayed from previous
> > errors
> > > ?
> > > ? Can someone please point me towards a better
> > source for Squeak?
> > > ?
> > > ? Thank you.
> > > ?
> > > ? David
> > > 
> > > First reply
> > > -----------
> > > If I remember correctly from my install
> > experience, the sources file is
> > > misnamed.  It is not a tar archive, it is just a
> > compressed file.  Just
> > > uncompress the file and rename it to
> > SqueakV2.sources.
> > > 
> > > Avi
> > > 
> > > Second reply
> > > ------------
> > > Yes.  Same was true for me (ie the file is
> > misnamed).  I suppose one
> > > could rename the file to one with no extension and
> > use the "file"
> > > command on the new name to see what it is.
> > > ?snip?
> > > 
> > > Third reply
> > > -----------
> > > Thanks for the info that Squeak-2-sources.tar.gz
> > is the needed source
> > > file,
> > > merely misnamed.  Guess I'll have to download all
> > the tarballs since the
> > > rpm system isn't willing to believe that I don't
> > need the sources.rpm it
> > > wants.
> > > 
> > > David
> > > 
> > > Fourth reply
> > > ------------
> > > rpm has some options for forcing an install when
> > you are certain that
> > > the stated dependencies are not really necessary. 
> > I think the option is
> > > -f but look at the man page to be sure.  But
> > you're probably better off
> > > installing from source anyway.
> > > 
> > > Fifth reply
> > > -----------
> > > I tried the --force option and rpm was still
> > unwilling to install the
> > > package.  Rereading the man page, it seems that
> > --force may only apply
> > > to
> > > forcing upgrades (as compared to forcing an
> > install).  Come to think of
> > > it,
> > > it might be possible to install 2.7 and upgrade
> > ...  Probably not worth
> > > it.  I'm gonna go the tarball route.
> > > 
> > > Sixth reply
> > > -----------
> > > You should use --nodeps in order to ignore
> > dependencies.
> > > 
> > > Avi
> > > 
> > > Final reply
> > > -----------
> > > Try the 2.7 rpms - worked a treat for me under
> > Mandrake 7.x using
> > > kpackage.
> > > 
> > > Sean
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> =====
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