Fujitsu Pen Tablets

Noel J. Bergman noel at devtech.com
Thu May 24 20:20:57 UTC 2001


Alan,

I know that Genie is the tool for the job.  The trick is in the using.  I
did a search for "genie" on the Swiki.  It found one match: Kevin Fisher's
iPAQ page, where he simply notes that Genie is in the image he provides.

In my earlier note I said, "If someone is aware of some useful change sets,
please let me know."  Perhaps I should have both clarified and generalized:

  - To clarify, I was refering to changes related to better *use* of Genie
on a stylus-centric device.

  - To generalize, any sharable experience in configuring Genie/Squeak for
such devices would be well received by many, I am sure.

And, yes, I've read the Genie tutorial in the Squeak 3.1 image.  :-)

	--- Noel

-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Kay [mailto:Alan.Kay at disney.com]

Folks --

Just try a few experiments with Nathanial's Genie recognizer, and you
will soon find some cool ways to do 1 button Squeak ....

Cheers,

Alan

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At 4:46 PM -0400 5/23/01, Joshua Channing Gargus wrote:
>On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 12:20:10PM -0400, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
>>  All of these devices appear to have plenty of screen real estate,
processing
>>  power, and memory.  But Squeak's mouse-button-centric UI is an issue for
>>  usability. Even though Squeak works fine with a 1-button mouse, it uses
a
>>  keyboard to map back to a 3-button mouse [red == button-1, yellow ==
>>  button-2/option+click, blue === button-3/cmd+click].
>>
>>  Based upon my experiences to-date with the iPAQ, I'd say that Squeak UI
>>  needs more work on stylus-centric devices before it is entirely usable
on a
>>  device that lacks a multi-button mouse and/or a keyboard with which to
>>  simulate the effect.  Right now there are too many things that require a
>>  3-button mouse and/or keyboard to manipulate the UI.  Images with Genie
just
>>  don't seem to be mature enough, yet.  If someone is aware of some useful
>>  change sets, please let me know.
>>
>>  So far, I haven't seen a stylus-centric UI that out does the Newton for
>>  usability.
>
>I would have to concur.  Squeak works great using a Wacom tablet, but the
>stylus has two extra buttons.
>
>I think it's a bit of a chicken and egg problem.  Until tablet devices with
>adequate screen real-estate are affordable and widely available, the Squeak
>hackers who would like to build a pen UI upon the excellent Genie framework
>won't have access to the hardware to do so.
>
>Joshua
>
>>
>>	--- Noel
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>  From: Jerry Bell [mailto:jdbell at fareselaw.com]
>>
>>  I don't have any info on those, but I played with a tablet from these
guys a
>>  couple of years ago at Comdex:
>>
>>  http://www.qbenet.com/indexflash.htm
>>
>>  They've got a nifty little webcam built in too.
>>
>>  > -----Original Message-----
>>  > From: Bert Freudenberg [mailto:bert at isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de]
>>  >
>>  > Does anybody have experience with Squeak on one of Fujitsu's pen-based
>>  > computers?  They look quite interesting ...
>>  >
>>  >
>>
http://www.fujitsu-pc.com/www/products_overview.shtml?products/pentablets/ov
>>  erview






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