[celeste] moving from Communicator to Celeste....

Alan Kay Alan.Kay at squeakland.org
Thu Nov 1 02:01:52 UTC 2001


I think the heart of Eudora qualifies as a minimal workable email 
client. I would love to see Celeste taken to that level, including a 
nicer UI (though Eudora could also be better in this regard). It 
would be nice to have a global "Celeste & other comm flap", etc.

Cheers,

Alan

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At 5:32 PM -0600 10/31/01, Jimmie Houchin wrote:
>John Hinsley wrote:
>
>>  I'd like to switch from Communicator to Celeste. I don't have any
>>  problems with multiple ISPs and such.
>>
>>  The problem I do have is simply the huge amount (well, hugeness is
>>  relative, currently nudging half a gig and all in standard Netscape 4.7*
>>  on *nix format) of stuff I have to transfer over. It can't be as simple
>>  as copying all the child directories over, or can it?
>>
>>  Ideas, advice and cries of "don't do it!" welcome.
>>
>>  Cheers
>>
>>  John
>>
>
>I too, would like to switch from Communicator to Celeste.
>
>I use Communicator on WinME (at work, no choice :( ) and at home on 
>Debian Sid with Mozilla 0.95. I tried Ximian's Evolution but just 
>didn't/haven't really liked it.
>
>I have 10s to 100+ mailboxes hierarchically organized.
>I have close to 600mb and 90,000 messages in mail.
>
>I would love for Celeste to be able to handle that.
>
>It seems to me (maybe incorrectly) that Celeste would need to do 
>similarly to other clients in that the mail file needs to be broken 
>up into multiple files, generally according to the mailbox scheme 
>set up by the user.
>
>In Communicator each mailbox has it's own file and index. I believe 
>Eudora is similar.
>
>I asked my wife the other day what it would take to get her away 
>from Eudora. She's open to such a move but it would have to be 
>reasonably feature equivalent and user friendly. She and my children 
>are currently on Macs.
>
>It would be nice if Celeste had UI choices (skins, chromes, faces, 
>whatever). One of which was similar to the other email clients so 
>that a migration path could be made from Communicator, Outlook, 
>Eudora, etc to Celeste. After migrating and becoming comfortable 
>with Celeste/Squeak then they could possibly if they choose move to 
>a potentially different and more powerful UI.
>
>Being able to import or use standard mbox format mailboxes would be 
>great. I frequently join mailing lists which have either 
>downloadable archives or archives available from the mail server. It 
>would be nice for Celeste to handle that.
>
>For example this mailing list is archived (back to July 01) at:
>http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/
>
>I look forward to using Celeste and hopefully contributing to it's 
>advancement once I become more Squeak proficient.
>
>Jimmie Houchin


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