Chris Macie's Apple II Smalltalk-80 ( was Re: Access vs. Media )

Les Tyrrell tyrrell at iserve11.lis.uiuc.edu
Mon Nov 12 07:03:38 UTC 2001


And yet another that I dimly recall, but have little info on.  I need to start writing these things down.

But no, I am fairly certain that TinyTalk was not Rosetta. In a perfect world, I would turn around and find my 1981 issue of Byte on the bookshelf behind me and get the reference... amazingly, this is possible... and said reference would look like this:

On page 302 of the August 1981 issue of Byte:
    "TinyTalk was implemented on a Xerox microcomputer by Larry Tesler and Kim McCall" ...

The article I mentioned before was:  "TinyTalk, a Subset of Smalltalk-76 for 64Kb Microcomputers", in Proceedings of the Third Annual Symposium on Small Systems.  This whole proceedings was not much bigger than a newsletter, and this article was about one page long.  In fact, it was indeed in a newsletter- ACM Sigsmall Newsletter, vol. 6, no. 2, 1980, pages 197-198 ( ok, 1 1/2 pages ).

Very sketchy.  Enquiring minds want to know!  To be honest, I've long had a crazy notion of doing something like that on my old Commodore 64 ( after all, I souped it up with that big 880Kb 3-1/2" disk drive, and the 256Kb Ram Expansion Unit, and GEOS... surely it still has plenty of life left in it? ).

Thanks for mentioning Rosetta- it is easy to lose these things when we aren't looking.

- les

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Duane Maxwell <dmaxwell at san.rr.com>
To: <squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 11:38 PM
Subject: Re: Chris Macie's Apple II Smalltalk-80 ( was Re: Access vs. Media )


> Les Tyrell writes:
> > Actually, another thing of intest to me would be more information about
> > TinyTalk, which was a variant of Smalltalk that I recall had been done on
> a
> > 64Kb Z-80 computer ( probably CP/M ).
> 
> Are you sure it wasn't Scott Warren's Rosetta Smalltalk, which ran on a
> Z-80?
> 
> http://www.rosetta.com/TechHistory.html#rosetta-smalltalk
> 
> -- Duane
> 
> 
> 





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