Does it really matter ? I know MS has the most unfavourable reputation, but
they are all of a muchness (as personal computers) in comparison to how they
could have been .

When I look at what was being done in 1980 with Smalltalk
I must say I'm miffed to realise how slow the software industry has been
through just taking up the window and desktop metaphor. Not enough have
"clicked" on the mind metaphor.

Who wants to be constrained by windows whether it's called Windows or not ?
Not I !

Regards,
Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hinsley" <jhinsley at telinco.co.uk>
To: <squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 10:41 PM
Subject: Re: A survey of OSs used by Squeakers


> Mark Guzdial wrote:
> >
> > >For me it's a way of trying to resolve Mark's statement that most of
his
> > >students use Linux and Maarten's assertion that 90% of Squeakers use
> > >Windows with my own gut feeling that Mac users are very well
represented
> > >on this list and that while Windows users outnumber Linux users, it's
> > >not by much.
> >
> > None of the above are really contradictory.
>
> For sure, but it's still not so easy to get your head around!
>
> > - By my "students," I meant my graduate students, e.g., Je77 is
> > mostly a UNIX person, Lex is entirely a Linux user, Joshua is mostly
> > a Linux user.  Bolot is our sole Windows maven.  The Macs I keep
> > putting in the lab collect dust in the corners...
>
> Well, you could always crate one up and send it to me! I'd really like
> to play with a Mac and see what all the fuss is about but I don't know
> anyone who has one and, well, I can buy Sparc kit for less.
>
> > - My undergraduate students (http://coweb.cc.gatech.edu/cs2340) are
> > mostly Windows users (like most of the universe), but with a very
> > vocal *nix minority.
>
> Feel free to ask them to contribute to the survey. It'll be interesting
> to find out if the advent of Windows XP turns more of your undergrads
> towards or away from Windows.
>
> > - People on this list are a majority, but are probably not the
> > complete Squeak-using universe.  My guess is that Squeakers NOT on
> > this list are probably heavily Windows users, as the majority of
> > computer users are.
>
> That would be my initial guess too, but then I wonder if the path to
> finding (and recognising) Squeak actually demands something similar to
> the path to different OSs? After all, why should non-list Squeakers be
> different to list Squeakers (except in so far as most list Squeakers
> have found it to be something they like)?
>
> BTW, I'll start summarising the results (it's been a _very_ impressive
> turn out) on Thursday after Buffy (around 1900 GMT), so there's still
> plenty of time to submit.
>
> Cheers
>
> John
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