Zurgle Project Update

Torge Husfeldt jean-jacques.gelee at gmx.de
Thu Sep 27 09:39:35 UTC 2001


Hi,
I think this is the right point to insist on my earlyer proposal to make
a change in the way we refer to modifier keys (both in our speech and in
the image). Why not use the names of colors (like for the mouse-buttons,
seems to work pretty well in that field ;-)? We could even match ne
modifier names to those of the color the first (and only on macs) mouse
button becomes when they are pressed. It would be no problem for the VM
to read in the user's preferences for this with a little configuration
file on startup. The image could be corrected also with a litte
find/replace.
I think this would also help the more than occasional os-switcher.

Just my 2 eurocents

Andreas Raab wrote:
> 
> Hi G.J.,
> 
> > 4. I do CTRL-V... and get my initials and the date
> 
> It's ALT-v not CTRL-v. Agreed, it's confusing if you're on Windows (and it
> hits me everytime right between the eyes) ... but alas! We have only a
> single set of global keybindings and they were exclusively made for Macs
> (where the gesture CMD-v is in fact the short cut for paste; and don't even
> get me started about "option" shortcuts ;-)
> 
> Now, before you can even ask why we don't map CMD to CTRL on Windows, here's
> the answer: There are various short cuts that *DO* refer to CTRL (like the
> one you are citing) and it was simply too confusing to have to tell people
> "when you hear CMD we mean CTRL but when you hear CTRL we mean ALT"...
> 
> Cheers,
>   - Andreas
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: squeak-dev-admin at lists.squeakfoundation.org
> > [mailto:squeak-dev-admin at lists.squeakfoundation.org]On Behalf Of
> > G.J.Tielemans at dinkel.utwente.nl
> > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 12:27 AM
> > To: squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org
> > Subject: RE: Zurgle Project Update
> >
> >
> > Sorry, I should describe these things more carefully:
> >
> > I use Squeak in combination with WinNT or Win98.
> > In these environments I got used to these two sequences:
> >
> > My prefered sequence:
> > 1. I open Word
> > 2. I open Powerpoint
> > 3. I bring the workareas of both windows in a (by mouse)reachable view
> > 4. I select a piece of text in Word
> > 5. I drag it do powerpoint and drop it there
> > (trying this with Squeak I get the "not allowed to
> > drop-traffic-sign...")
> >
> >
> > My second choice:
> > 1. I select In Word (or..) with my mouse a piece of text
> > 2. Then I do CTRL-C with my left hand
> > 3. Then I go with my mouse to my Squeak workspace
> > 4. I do CTRL-V... and get my initials and the date
> >
> > (If I open the workspace menu and make my choice paste(v)..
> > .. I got the original cut out,
> > so it is for Squeak visible on the clipboard
> > AND it suggest that CTRL-V should work..
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ned Konz [mailto:ned at bike-nomad.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 5:36 PM
> > To: squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org
> > Subject: Re: Zurgle Project Update
> >
> >
> > On Wednesday 26 September 2001 07:53 am,
> > G.J.Tielemans at dinkel.utwente.nl
> > wrote:
> >
> > > (I still hate it that I can not cut& past with my mouse
> > > between Squeak and another window on my desktop.)
> >
> > What are you trying to do? What operating system? Cut/copy
> > and paste (at
> > least with text) works pretty well across the operating
> > systems (though I
> > had
> > to fix the Unix implementation).
> >
> > Do you mean with graphics? Or do you want to do text
> > copy/paste just with
> > the
> > mouse like in Unix?
> >
> > --
> > Ned Konz
> > currently: Stanwood, WA
> > email:     ned at bike-nomad.com
> > homepage:  http://bike-nomad.com
> >
> >
> >




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