> Would you also put these inboard scrollbars on the *right*, 
> on similar grounds of familiarity?

	And if not, why not :-)

	Also, it seems that the 'silent majority' won the 'sausage'
scrollbar war ;-)

	Cheers,

	PhiHo.


-----Original Message-----
From: squeak-dev-admin at lists.squeakfoundation.org
[mailto:squeak-dev-admin at lists.squeakfoundation.org] On Behalf Of Scott
Wallace
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 10:37 PM
To: squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org
Subject: Re: straw-man 3.2 default preferences


Ned,

Well argued.

Would you also put these inboard scrollbars on the *right*, on 
similar grounds of familiarity?

   -- Scott

At 7:20 PM -0700 4/18/02, Ned Konz wrote:
>On Thursday 18 April 2002 06:37 pm, Scott Wallace wrote:
>
>>  (inboardScrollbars false)
>
>I think this is possibly the most controversial of the preferences.
>
>My take on it is that the defaults probably should be set to inboard,
>since:
>
>(a) people are familiar with that UI behavior, and
>
>(b) it is faster to aim at something you can see than something that 
>you hope will be there when you get there. If you overshoot to the left

>of the scrollbar, the scrollbar disappears again, and you have to once 
>again move the mouse inside the pane to get the scrollbar back. The 
>arguments relating to screen real estate aren't as important as they 
>used to be.
>
>Those of us who prefer the flop-out scrollbars can certainly change 
>them.
>
>Likewise,
>
>(scrollBarsWithoutMenuButton false)
>
>increases the possibility of getting a menu when you're aiming at a 
>scroll bar arrow.
>
>However,
>
>(optionalButtons true)
>
>is a good idea (as Brian has noted).