In Argentina, at the University of Buenos Aires, we
are planning to adopt Squeak as our Smalltalk dialect
of choice (it is not mandatory) for the next semester.
So I hope our students will buy a little bunch (just
as we, the teachers, did ;o).
Unfortunately foreign books costs has just doubled,
thus I think students will prefer getting on-line info
rather than printed.

Regards,
Dan Rozenfarb


-----Mensaje original-----
De: squeak-dev-admin at lists.squeakfoundation.org
[mailto:squeak-dev-admin at lists.squeakfoundation.org]En
nombre de Mark
Guzdial
Enviado el: Jueves, 24 de Enero de 2002 03:18 p.m.
Para: squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org
Asunto: Where the Squeak Books are being adopted


There's been a discussion on the Squeak Foundation
list about where 
Squeak is being taught in universities.  One sampling
of that is 
where the White and NuBlue Squeak books are being
adopted, and I just 
got that report today for Summer and Fall 2001 sales. 
Thought that 
y'all might be interested, so here are some of the
highlights. These 
are sales to educational institutions of 20 or more
books, with US 
universities highlighted, and international
universities hidden 
behind purchases by Pearson distribution centers. 
(Pearson owns 
Prentice-Hall.)

White Book (Textbook): Georgia Tech, Portland State,
San Diego State, 
and U. Washington are all buying class-size bunches of
the White 
book.  There are various sales to distribution
centers, like Borders, 
Amazon.com, and Barnes & Noble.  Something I was
surprised at was the 
167 copies bought by Pearson Education in Singapore. 
That's in 
contrast to the 25 copies to Japan, 159 to Canada, 25
to Hong Kong, 
and 20 copies to Australia.  Are there a lot of
Squeakers in 
Singapore?  Pearson England bought a whopping 756
copies of the White 
book -- perhaps there are some classes in the UK
teaching Squeak?

NuBlue Book: The only university buying a bunch of the
NuBlue book is 
Stanford, who bought 35 of them -- that sounds more
like a class, and 
less like the bookstore is buying a couple to have on
the shelf. 
Again, Pearsons in Singapore ordered quite a few: 86
copies.  The 
NuBlue book is popular outside the US, too: 117 in
Canada, 264 in 
England, 20 in Hong Kong, and 25 in Japan.  (None to
Australia, as of 
this report ending 01 Sept. 2001.)

Other than Stanford, we're not seeing many of the top
US 
universities, but these are promising numbers, and
it's interesting 
the large number of non-US purchases.  I suspect that
Smalltalk is 
more popular in academic research outside of the US
than in, so it 
makes sense that Squeak would be popular there.

Mark

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