Squeak practical use?

Stephane Ducasse ducasse at iam.unibe.ch
Mon Jan 28 10:45:59 UTC 2002


on 28/01/02 8:39 AM, Yoel Jacobsen at yoel at emet.co.il wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> I'm a computer professional, doing system architecture and
> implementation of medium to large directory, messaging and other (mainly
> Solaris oriented) systems I have this inquiry sitting in the back of my
> head for a long while.
> 
> I do LOVE playing with Squeak and implemented some nice ideas
> (currently - ASN.1 encoder/decoder to form a basis for an LDAP
> implementation).
> 
> However, when it gets to practical, day to day programming I just
> fill that other languages (mainly - Python) is more practical. I can
> transfer my ideas into a running program in a short while.  When
> analyzing why it is so, I have reached the following conclusions:
> 
> 1. Squeak is TOO decoupled from the underlying OS. I want to make
> use of Solaris or any other high end UNIX like OS for memory management,
> process and thread scheduling, and so forth. I need to make sure that if
> managing the memory behavior of Squeak Processes will be done without
> affecting the entire environment (I want to work on code while another
> process is running in full speed).
> 
> Yes, I can create a minimal image and run 'squeak minimal.image
> myscript' but it would not give me the advantage of managing a running
> process in my development image.
> 
> 2. Class documentation quality.
> 
> 3. Squeak is 'marketed' and therefore progress as an idea
> exploration tool. I usually explore my idea with the implementation
> tool. Python do both for me.
> 
> So, the inquiry - Are you using Squeak for any practical use? Please
> tell me only about resource intensive applications (currency conversion
> does not count as a practical application).
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Yoel
> 
> 
> 
> 
Hi

But you can look at other Smalltalks which are pratical like VW for example.
www.cincom.com/smalltalk/

You have the same power of expressions and this is going faster ;)

Stef




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