Modules?! (was Re: Integrating the RegisteringFileList)

goran.hultgren at bluefish.se goran.hultgren at bluefish.se
Tue Jan 29 12:54:08 UTC 2002


Henrik Gedenryd <h.gedenryd at open.ac.uk> wrote:
> Göran  Hultgren wrote:
> > Speaking of the modules - what is the current status? I am longing for it
> > and I hope it isn't "rotting away" on someones harddrive somewhere... :-)
> 
> It's not dead, it's just resting. I work on improvements when I get a
> chance. But I've really been a bit discouraged by the fact that it's been
> held back so long, the idea after all was that this would be a cooperative
> venture.

Agreed. What has Dan to say about this?
 
> Speaking of any day now, I can't comment on when the code will be released
> as updates... Although I came to think of a Swedish proverb that goes
> something like "what is covered by snow will show up once the snow melts"
> ;-)

It's melting a lot here in Stockholm... So where is it? ;-)

> > Yes, it will hurt for a while for sure, but after that... One important
> > thing we can't afford to flop on (for a change) is documentation. When
> > modules hits the stream we need to have solid tutorials/guides in place so
> > that the confusion is kept at a minimum.
> 
> Umm, that's a great idea!

Oops, I can sense what's coming... ;-)

> > (I know - I could help out - but I really don't think I can do much to
> > help...)
> 
> Ooh yes sir... download the latest "shipped" code from here (too big to
> post):
> 
> http://www.lucs.lu.se/people/henrik.gedenryd/Squeak/Modules01-27.zip
> 
> Then start using it and write that documentation you mentioned. ._\  (That
> by the way is just half a smiley there.)

Ok, you got me. I will try it. I actually have a small cool project
where this might fit perfectly.
No promise on the Introduction, but I will try.

> I've waited with this reply till the latest additions were done--there is
> now a decent set of test cases (50ish) that covers the basic
> functionalities, including DeltaModules and Repositories, but the tests
> aren't exhaustive (how could they be!).

Nice!

> > One last remark - if it is the work to modularize the base image that is
> > holding this up I would vote for taking a "cell splitting" approach. Start
> > off with one or a few "huge" base modules that we can chop up in smaller
> > pieces in due time.
> 
> Nope, that will probably take a long time. I'd guess a year at least, if
> people started work hard on it now.
> 
> But what I really wonder is what made the image grow to 15+ megs from 9 or
> so, it's nowhere near all code, I thought it was the "Welcome" projects but
> that's just roughly a meg. It's really terrible that shrinking the image is
> the blackest of Squeak arts.

Well, it will soon be a problem of the past. Right? ;-)

> Henrik

regards, Göran



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