Hi Marcus,

    Thanks for the picture. It's nice to see the faces.

    Just one little thing, can you show who is who.

    Thanks,

    PhiHo.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marcus Denker" <marcus at ira.uka.de>
To: <squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
Cc: <squeakfoundation at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: Idea to get money in Squeak community


> On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 09:03:22AM +0200, Stephane Ducasse wrote:
> >
> > But for now an association would work perfectly, I guess that an
> > association in germany acts as a
> > group of people that do not have the intention to make money but can
> > manage it.
> > So right now this would be perfect.
> > I prefer to see an association that a non exisiting foundation.
> >
>
> Hi all,
>
> Sorry for not answering earlier... but we had to discuss this on the
> squeak-ev list first.
>
> So... maybe I start with
>
> What we did
> ------------
>
> We're in the process of setting up a non-profit association in Germany.
> This association will be a legal entity (like a Person or a Company) after
> it gets registered (than we are a "e.V" which es a "registered
association").
> This will take some time because both the Tax Authorities and the local
> Court are involved in the process.
>
> The bylaws of the association were discussed on the squeak-ev list
> for some time, and then some of us (exactly 7, required by law)  met
> at LinuxTag and signed them. There is a nice photo at
> http://swiki.squeakfoundation.org/squeak-ev/34
>
> The bylaws are pretty standard for this kind of german association
(Verein)
> (We copied them from ADA Germany e.V. and then modified them for our
> purpose). The bylaws are very much like a constitution for the
association:
> They contain first a set of goals (What do we want to do?) and then the
> bylaws define the structure (simple: board of three (First, Second,
> Treasurer), and how these get elected and how to remove them if they do
> strange things.
> The elected board is: 1. Marcus Denker, 2. Markus Gaelli, Treasurer: Hans
> Beck.
>
> Members are required to pay a membership-fee. (Euro 0 (younger than 18y,
10
> (Students), 30 (normal) and 200 (corporations) per year)
>
> Have a look at the Babelfish translation:
>
http://babelfish.altavista.com/urltrurl?url=http%3A%2F%2Fswiki.squeakfoundat
ion.
> +org%2Fsqueak-ev%2F20&lp=de_en&tt=url&urltext=&doit=done)
> pretty funny translation, but better than nothing.
>
> So the whole thing is as simple as possible and *very* flexible. We can
> simply do what we want and build further structures on the way.
> ("Do the simplest thing that could possibly work").
>
> Ok. Now
>
> What we *are*
> -------------
> We consider the german association to be local thing. We discussed this on
> the squeak-ev list, and we think that "morphing" squeak-ev into that what
> squeakfoundation is planed to be would not be good. Being local instead of
> global has some implications...
> Our idea for squeak-ev was to do something small, but *do* it.
>
> We agreed on the following:
>
> 1) We are not yet registered. Nothing will happen until we are.
> 2) We consider ourself to be a local organisation.
> 3) We would like to help building structures to support Squeak, both
>    global and european.
> 4) Because there is no squeakfoundation yet, we are willing to take
>    donations as soon as we are registered. We garantee that this money
>    will be used according to our statutes.
>
>
> So... back to you suggestion: It seems to be a good idea to put together
> a CD for companies and universities to buy (and thus contributing to
> the further development of squeak).
>
> Other things to consider would be
>
> T-shirts:  http://www.jinxhackwear.com
> Affero:    http://www.affero.com/   (this seems to be a realy interesting
idea)
>
>      Marcus
>
> --
> Marcus Denker marcus at ira.uka.de  -- Squeak! http://squeakland.org
>
>