Free Smalltalk License (RE: MySQL-Driver)
Alan Kay
Alan.Kay at squeakland.org
Thu Jul 25 15:12:48 UTC 2002
But Stephen,
At 9:38 AM -0400 7/25/02, Stephen Pair wrote:
>Yeah, but that wouldn't be in the Smalltalk tradition of re-implementing
>everything in Smalltalk terms. ;)
Historically, it could be looked at as exactly the opposite ... heh heh ....
>
>Also, I think part of the issue is getting others in the Smalltalk
>community to accept and adopt the license. Having a community adopted
>"Free Smalltalk License" would go a long way toward building that
>consensus. We might even want two licenses that implement Smalltalk
>variants of the "free" vs. "open" licenses (where the "free" variant has
>some restrictions regarding certain commercial uses). Call them the
>"Free Smalltalk License" and the "Open Smalltalk License".
In any case I like the suggestion below, and at some point I will try
to get Apple to change the license to something more like it.
Cheers,
Alan
>
>- Stephen
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: squeak-dev-admin at lists.squeakfoundation.org
>> [mailto:squeak-dev-admin at lists.squeakfoundation.org] On
>> Behalf Of Jarvis, Robert P. (Contingent)
>> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 9:27 AM
>> To: 'squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org'
>> Subject: RE: Free Smalltalk License (RE: MySQL-Driver)
>>
>>
>> I suggest that, rather than trying to create Yet Another Open
>> Source License, an existing license acceptable to all parties
>> be chosen. I like and use the MIT license - see
>> http://opensource.org/licenses/mit-license.html.
>>
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>> Bob Jarvis
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>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Stephen Pair [mailto:spair at acm.org]
>> > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 9:05 AM
>> > To: squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org
>> > Subject: Free Smalltalk License (RE: MySQL-Driver)
>> >
>> >
>> > I think this is an excellent idea. I think it's important
>> to get it
>> > approved by OSI too.
>> >
>> > - Stephen
>> >
>> > > Ups. GPL is bad for Smalltalk: Filing this into the image is
>> > > linking. And then as soon as you distribute your Programm,
>> > > *everything* needs to be GPL (even Visualworks itself...).
>> > >
>> > > Why don't we (as "the greater Smalltalk community") set up a
>> > > nice "Free Smalltalk Licence". Such a License should be
>> > > OSI-Approved and "compatible" with commercial Systems like
>> > > VisualWorks.
>> > >
>> > > Then we should try to make it part of the Smalltalk culture
>> > > to release all free stuff under that License...
>> > >
>> > > What do you think?
>> > >
>> > > Marcus
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Marcus Denker marcus at ira.uka.de -- Squeak! http://squeakland.org
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
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