A problem hindering SmallTalk's popularity:

Alan Kay Alan.Kay at squeakland.org
Thu Jul 25 23:03:10 UTC 2002


What features besides graphical objects does one need for this 
project? As far as I know, radio buttons were first invented, named 
and done in the orginal Xerox PARC Smalltalk-76 by Ted Kaehler for 
one of the early painting systems.

Cheers,

Alan

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At 2:12 PM -0700 7/25/02, Brian T Rice wrote:
>Hi Lily,
>
>Are you taking this class at Georgia Tech? Anyway, for examples like this,
>you should not be using Squeak, but Dolphin Smalltalk or some equivalent.
>Whoever wrote the curriculum is basically at fault. Different programming
>language implementations have different focuses on features.
>
>On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, Lily Smith wrote:
>
>>  I am new to SmallTalk. I have to learn it because I have to take a
>>  class on
>>  SmallTalk.
>>
>>  The major reason that why SmallTalk is way less popular as Microsoft VB
>>  is
>>  that SmallTalk lacks documentatation and a good tutorial. I know
>>  SmallTalk
>>  can do almost everything that VB can, but a newbie like me just don't
>>  know
>>  how to do it. It is not easy to find the correct class and method. Even
>>  if
>>  I am lucky enough to find it, I have to spend hours to learn how to use
>>  those methods. Few documentation and examples on the web are available.
>>  After several setbacks like this, people will probably give up and
>>  forget
>>  SmallTalk.
>>
>>  One of my assignments was to add a radio button group and then deal
>>  with
>>  the user input. Even my teacher does not know how to implement a radio
>>  button group. He spent half an hour in class, trying to show us how to
>>  add
>>  a radio button group. He failed. Then he wanted us to complete that
>>  assignment ourselves. God! It is even difficult for a SmallTalk senior
>>  to
>>  find out something common! How can SmallTalk be popular? Look at how
>>  easy
>>  it is to add a radio button group in Microsoft VB!
>>
>>  Well, it is just my complaint on this language. I hope SmallTalk geeks
>>  should come up with a very good tutorial book for SmallTalk newbies.
>>  Otherwise, it will never be popular.
>>
>>
>>
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