rounded corners (was: Re: straw-man 3.2 default preferences)

Alan Kay Alan.Kay at squeakland.org
Wed May 1 16:06:32 UTC 2002


But, Henrik, what is the "rational argument" for having color or even 
gray scale or different fonts in the developer interface or any 
interface? Or flowers on your desk? Part of UI is ambience.... If you 
don't like rounded corners, then you should be able to turn them off, 
etc.

Cheers,

Alan

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At 4:45 PM +0200 5/1/02, Henrik Gedenryd wrote:
>Andreas Raab wrote:
>
>>  Yes. I strongly disagree. If the argument is that it eats to many
>>  cycles, perhaps it would be useful to see _where_ these cycles go. With
>>  the recent changes there are many more rounded corners on the screen
>>  than ever before (all the optional buttons) and it seems silly to me to
>>  turn corner rounding on windows off "because it's slow". Let's look at
>>  the problem (speed) rather than the symptom (rounded corners).
>
>This is a pseudo-logical argument. They are not the symptom. They are the
>cause. The symptom is slowness. Silliness lies in insisting that they be on
>without stating what their advantage is.
>
>We all may have opinions about the aesthetics of the rounded corners, but
>turning them off was concluded on a purely rational basis.
>
>So what is the rational argument for keeping rounded courners on? I.e. what
>do they improve? If there is some purpose, then this can be traded against
>the loss in speed. But unless the advantages of rounded corners aren't
>stated then I can't really see an argument.
>
>The argument for having rounding on at all in the first place should really
>have nothing to do with speed. But a speed problem would add more weight
>against them.
>
>Henrik


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