Hi dan

could you tell us where you will put this tiny.image.

Someone I guess jon hylands did a new major shrink for 3.2. Jon what 
was the size you got at the end.
We may be interested to have a small (but not tiny) image to do further 
language experiments. But we should look at that.

Stef


On lundi, novembre 4, 2002, at 11:22  pm, Dan Ingalls wrote:

> "Andreas Raab" <Andreas.Raab at gmx.de>  wrote...
>
>> Dan,
>>
>>> This is an interesting question.  I've been thinking about it
>>> recently while contemplating the ST72 and ST76 kernels (which
>>> are both under 100k of source).
>>
>> It's relatively simple to make a rough cut at 300-400k in Squeak "as a
>> useful small system", e.g., without doing a lot of careful crafting 
>> and
>> still be able to do about everything you can imagine. At this size you
>> end up with basically the following stuff:
>> a) Kernel (Object, Boolean, Behavior, Class etc)
>> b) Processes (Process, Delay, ProcessorScheduler etc)
>> c) Execution (CompiledMethod, Contexts, Exceptions)
>> d) Magnitudes
>> e) Collections (the basic ones; String, BA, Set, Dict, Array, OC etc)
>> f) Streams (the basic internal ones)
>> g) Files (directories, streams)
>> h) Compiler
>
> Certainly.  Back in August of 1997, I took a run at this and got an 
> image that was 240k.  I can send it to anyone who is interested (it 
> was called "tiny.image" and I think it is on the UIUC server).  It had 
> pretty much the above classes (it could do fileIns), and also just 
> enough graphics to present a scrolling window (Class Transcripter in 
> current Squeak) in which you could type, execute and print 
> expressions.  Here's an excerpt from the message and readme file that 
> I sent out to the squeak list at that time...
> -----------------
> The end result of the headless shrink procedure is a Squeak image that 
> is 246K in size, containing 110 classes and 1771 methods.  These 
> include the core classes and methods for Numbers, Collections, 
> Compiler and File System, so that you can still open files, execute 
> simple fileIns and save or quit.
>
>
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