Hi Scott,

> The Guides have the "keys" already, in the sense that no updates are
> being published by SqC without the prior approval of the Guides.
>
> Having said that, I should add that I had been willing and intending
> and expecting to take responsibility to drive Squeak 3.4 quickly
> forward, right the way through to final release within the next month
> --  a "unification" release that could reunite the community; the
> last monolithic image, the last SqC image, a solid basis from which
> the SqueakMap culture could start to form and from which forthcoming
> image refactoring and stripping could start taking place in Squeak
> 3.5a in a matter of weeks.
>
> Indeed, I had been thinking of it as something that SqC *owed* to the
> community, after this difficult year.
>

    Your posting is really touching. It is truly in the spirit of:

            "Ask Not What Squeak Can Do For You,
            But What You Can Do For Squeak"

    BTW, also in that spirit, I guess, 'MouseKeepers' is becoming
    more popular lately. I for one think that it's more appropriate.

    Thanks for all the hard work that you and SqueakCentral
    have put into 3.4, "the last monolithic image, the last SqC image",
    to prepare the ground for the next wave of evolution.

    With the release of 3.4, I am sure that the Squeak community
    would love to organize a farewell party to express our gratitute
    for all the good things that SqueakCentral have been doing for Squeak.

    I am looking forward to hear speeches from all members
    of SqueakCentral at the party.

    Cheers,

    PhiHo.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Wallace" <scott.wallace at squeakland.org>
To: "Doug Way" <dway at riskmetrics.com>; <danielv at netvision.net.il>;
<tim at sumeru.stanford.edu>; <goran.hultgren at bluefish.se>; "Craig Latta"
<craig.latta at netjam.org>; <ned at bike-nomad.com>
Cc: <squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org>;
<squeakfoundation at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 2:47 AM
Subject: Re: New update stream (was Re: [Squeakfoundation]Order of business
...)


> At 12:52 AM +0300 11/16/02, danielv at netvision.net.il wrote:
> >Hi Scott.
> >
> >We got no answers from you on:
>
> I apologize for not replying sooner, but I hope you'll find the wait
> has been worthwhile ;-)
>
>
> >  > Three issues we should start moving on, IMO:
> >>  1. Process to take physical ownership of updates.
> >>   * Scott/SqC - do you have any remaining agenda for 3.4a/3.2.1, to
> >  > settle before handing over the "keys"?
>
> The Guides have the "keys" already, in the sense that no updates are
> being published by SqC without the prior approval of the Guides.
>
> Having said that, I should add that I had been willing and intending
> and expecting to take responsibility to drive Squeak 3.4 quickly
> forward, right the way through to final release within the next month
> --  a "unification" release that could reunite the community; the
> last monolithic image, the last SqC image, a solid basis from which
> the SqueakMap culture could start to form and from which forthcoming
> image refactoring and stripping could start taking place in Squeak
> 3.5a in a matter of weeks.
>
> Indeed, I had been thinking of it as something that SqC *owed* to the
> community, after this difficult year.
>
> This is a lot of work, people -- stressful, exacting, time-consuming,
> uncelebrated, unpaid.  Thus, the sudden prospect of immediate,
> complete freedom from such responsibilities is very enticing.  So I
> accept ;-)
>
> If the preference and mood of the community are for an immediate and
> unconditional and complete hand-over to the Guides, today, right now,
> of responsibility for 3.4 (and for all Squeak versions for that
> matter,) consider it done.  The keys are in the ignition, guys, go
> ahead and drive it off  ;-)
>
>
> >  >  * Scott, are you interested in some role (as vaguely ;-) postulated
by
> >  > goran, or otherwise) under the guidance (sic) of us Guides?
>
> Yes, I'm willing to serve a bridging role.  If the Guides want to
> send me fileouts for publication as updates, I'll gladly publish
> them; this would afford the full effect of a hand-off while not for
> the moment requiring us to change too many other things all at once.
>
>
> >  >  * If neither of the above, can you explain the current existing
tools
> >>  in the image for handling this and the required resources, so we can
> >  > plan a clean transition?
>
> Well, this communication needs to be done in any case.  I will
> explain everything I know, but Dan is the best person to transmit
> most of this information -- they're his tools, and his procedures,
> and he is the person of record on the sites, guardian of the
> passwords, contact person with uiuc, etc.  Ted is the other leading
> expert and insider in these matters.
>
>
> >And if the last, then on the technical side -
> >
> >  > I assume basically we'll need some public readable, Guides writeable
> >  > storage space on updates.squeakfoundation.org, and a final update on
> >  > both all current servers and versions that changes the urls currently
in
> >  > the image. Am I missing something?
>
> Sounds like you're on top of it.  Good luck!
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>    -- Scott
>
>