Squeak Starter

Stephane Ducasse ducasse at iam.unibe.ch
Wed Oct 16 10:56:09 UTC 2002


Hi henrik

Just to refresh some memories here.
We tried to help if you remember. Alex started to build some tools for 
modules.
Now the question how it is possible that 4 smart guys cannot understand 
the modules system to the
point that they can explain it. I think that this was the reason of the 
failure of the modules.

I still think that the question of splitting the image in packages is 
crucial. I'm waiting to see what andreas did
because he told me that he was working on that.

Stef
On mercredi, octobre 16, 2002, at 12:44  pm, Henrik Gedenryd wrote:

> Scott Wallace wrote:
>
>> I'd be interested in hearing feedback on this naive but expedient 
>> little hack.
>> Should it go into the image?  It does not deal with any potentially 
>> awkward
>> issues, it just brings code in, rather than rejecting it, so that you 
>> can
>> start working with it from within Squeak.
>>
>> Or would this be too much of an affront to the integrity of the 
>> Modules
>> system?  Or does anyone care anymore?
>
> I don't know whether to laugh or cry. The current block was not in the
> initial module system. It was only added after SqC people complained 
> about
> the super-strange things that happened when it would just silently 
> swallow
> outdated code!!
>
> Memorably, members of SqC got some bugs which they absolutely couldn't
> understand why they happened. (The code relied on hacking deep down 
> into the
> old handling of global variables. Gee I wonder why that would fail 
> now.)
>
> Plus there were updates released that corrupted the system, to which I 
> had
> to release update patches.
>
> But by all means go ahead and release it (and then wait X months for 
> the
> proposed anti-patch to surface again). As you said, noone probably 
> cares any
> more anyway. Out of the dozens of people who promised to contribute, 0
> (zero) have made good on what they said then. I don't even think the 
> last
> set of important fixes that I sent out was ever released as updates. 
> But I
> too do not care.
>
> Henrik
>
>
>
Dr. Stéphane DUCASSE (ducasse at iam.unibe.ch) 
http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~ducasse/
  "if you knew today was your last day on earth, what would you do
  different? ... especially if, by doing something different, today
  might not be your last day on earth" Calvin&Hobbes





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