Please ignore the troll, was: Re: Squeak Starter

Stephane Ducasse squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org
Wed Oct 16 20:09:23 UTC 2002


Henrik

You are really really a ***poor*** guy. I'm really sorry for you and=
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for this list.
I cannot let you piss on my feet (even if they are waterproofed).

> If you recall, he took on the role as Official Machiavellian Critic=
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> the
> module system the moment the other proposal from Joseph P.--his=
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> friend--was
> turned down by this community. You can go back in the archives to=
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> verify
> this. Ever since then, he has had this as a personal mission. In th=
e
> beginning I didn't realize the personal connection and so I fell fo=
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> it too.
> You'd wish he'd get over it.

But what the people around may not know is that we invite you to visi=
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us for 4
days (unfortunately someone decided to die in my family, this should =
be=20
a sign)
and that you slept at my place while my wife went to the funeral 1200=
=20
km away.
We tried with the group to understand the modules and see how to help=
.

Sure this does not count for you.

> He is determined to sow spite into the Squeak community; comes on t=
he=20
> list
> every couple of months and tells everyone to go to hell; once it wa=
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> because
> the list was a chat room, then it was "everyone stop talking and do=
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> it".
> Like when he said he would become a harvester, did it once (there h=
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> to be
> patches released afterwards to fix the worst mistakes in there)

And then, did I not refactor the fileList completely, and then what i=
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the point
I tried to understand the problem harvester encountered. I read much=
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more code that
I signed. I ported Ginsu to 3.1 to help.

> and then
> quit. That's "stop talking and do something" applied to onself,=
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> indeed. Then
> he slagged everyone off for not writing unit tests for all the code=
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> they
> post; on the rare instance when he posts something himself there ar=
en't
> always tests with the code, same thing again. I also recall how he=
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> flamed
> another French guy who made his first post on the list.
>
> Check all of these in the archives if you don't believe me.

May be I talk too much. May be I'm frustrated to see Squeak not movin=
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faster.

> Stef, if you are so busy working for your rent as you always excuse
> yourself, then why don't you also spare use these flaming posts?=
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> Surely they
> take time too to write. They don't exactly help Squeak. As in "stop=
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> talking
> and do something".
>
> Henrik

I'm sad for you in fact. Apparently you do not know what means not=
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having a
secure place and having two small kids.

But sure you asked all the brillant guys working with you to work on=
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squeak, you are
proposing new lectures on Smalltalk, writing articles on Squeak,=20
pushing books on Squeak
towards editor, organizing a conference on Smalltalk, organizing free=
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books distribution
to universities, collecting a free Smalltalk cds, scanning out printe=
d=20
book to give to
the community, writing a book for novices,....

Everybody knows that you do that daily.

I hope that you feel better now.

At least you should respect people that hosted you. Few people eat at=
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my place,
and fewer sleep in my beds. Apparently you were not appreciating it.




Prof. Dr. St=E9phane DUCASSE (ducasse at iam.unibe.ch)=20
http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~ducasse/
  "if you knew today was your last day on earth, what would you do
  different? ... especially if, by doing something different, today
  might not be your last day on earth" Calvin&Hobbes





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