Guys@Bern: About Traits Was: Morph cleaning proposal
Stephane Ducasse
ducasse at iam.unibe.ch
Wed Feb 12 19:56:15 UTC 2003
>
> - Guys at Bern: What about the stability of the current traits
> implementation?
> Do you expect too much changes?
What I suggest to you is to use the image nathanael provided. And tell
us! Design
a small system and check because I can tell you that this is great (it
is ;)) but
we need your and other point of view. I think that in two days you can
access it.
If this is stable, it is now if hundred of squeakers play with it, we
will find certainly
some bugs.
Read what nathanael said on the web page. I think that traits are
stable, but we cannot
save them (no file out support but one guy can define that in now time).
Currently we have problem to generate a cs because of the builder
problem.
Our meta question right now is it worth for us to continue in Squeak?
We are currently identifying how to move further. We are not sure if we
will stay within
Squeak or go to VW or GNU, we are making an evaluation of what we need
for the future and
how each system offers us a solution. We are waiting to discuss with
Andreas also to see
how we could push on the same direction.
Nathanael will make a list of stuff we hate in the current
implementation: (from memory)
- Squeak Scanner,
- Squeak AST, => solution SmaCC
- System Browser, => a ***new*** browser not a hack
- classBuilder => look at the one of VW and replace this one (no
patch!)
- we need also a changeCodeNotifier
Once this analysis done we will see. So if at that time the community
tell us yes we believe in traits then we will see.
So you know everything, this is my perspective on our current status but
we discussed last week about that and before moving further we want to
reevaluate
the possibilities.
Stef
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