[FIX] [?] RE: Automatic selection of '--all--'
Andreas Raab
andreas.raab at gmx.de
Mon Jan 6 23:00:53 UTC 2003
Dean,
Works excellent now! You got my vote for inclusion.
Cheers,
- Andreas
> -----Original Message-----
> From: squeak-dev-admin at lists.squeakfoundation.org
> [mailto:squeak-dev-admin at lists.squeakfoundation.org] On
> Behalf Of Swan, Dean
> Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 10:17 PM
> To: 'squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org'
> Subject: RE: [FIX] [?] RE: Automatic selection of '--all--'
>
>
> Andreas,
>
> Thanks. Obviously I didn't try this. It does the same thing
> in 3.2. I've attached a new change set that deals with this by
> forcing the selected message category to 0 (i.e. no message category
> selected) when you click the 'instance' or 'class' buttons.
>
> -Dean
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Andreas Raab [mailto:andreas.raab at gmx.de]
> > Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 3:30 PM
> > To: squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org
> > Subject: RE: [FIX] [?] RE: Automatic selection of '--all--'
> >
> >
> > Dean,
> >
> > The fix looks good and I was _almost_ about to endorse it
> but there's
> > one minor oddity: When you change between
> instance/comment/class then
> > the '-- all --' category gets selected and we see the class
> definition
> > fully selected (noticed on 3.4b).
> >
> > But besides that it looks really good.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > - Andreas
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: squeak-dev-admin at lists.squeakfoundation.org
> > > [mailto:squeak-dev-admin at lists.squeakfoundation.org] On
> > > Behalf Of Swan, Dean
> > > Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 9:14 PM
> > > To: 'squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org'
> > > Subject: [FIX] [?] RE: Automatic selection of '--all--'
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Everyone!
> > >
> > > I hope everybody got to take some time off and enjoy the holiday
> > > season. I had a two week holiday, but I did manage to
> look into the
> > > '-- all --' category issues. I've attached a change set
> that is the
> > > distilled results of my investigation.
> > >
> > > The behavior that you should get with this change set is as
> > > follows:
> > >
> > > 1) with a system category and a class selected, the message
> > > category list displays the list of categories, including
> > > the '-- all --' category.
> > >
> > > If no message category is selected, all method selectors
> > > for the selected class will be displayed in the message
> > > list pane, and the code pane will display the class
> > > template for the selected class. The code pane will be
> > > in 'editClass' mode.
> > >
> > > 2) as above, but with any message category selected, including
> > > the '-- all --' category, but with no method selector
> > > selected in the message list pane, the new method template
> > > will be displayed in the code pane and selected. The code
> > > pane will be in 'newMessage' mode.
> > >
> > > 3) Accepting a new method while the '-- all --' category is
> > > selected will add the new message to the 'as yet
> > > unclassified'
> > > category. The 'as yet unclassified' category will be
> > > created if it doesn't exist.
> > >
> > > I have manually tested these changes fairly completely in a
> > > morphic project and I did some less thorough testing in an MVC
> > > project as well. Everything I tested behaved as I expected, and
> > > hopefully the way others would expect as well (i.e. no weird,
> > > un-helpful error messages, etc.). Sorry, but I didn't write
> > > any SUnit tests for these changes.
> > >
> > > This fix required touching four methods:
> > >
> > > METHOD PREVIOUS VERSION
> > > ------------------------------------ -------------------
> > > Browser>>classListIndex: nk
> > > 2/13/2001 13:26
> > > Browser>>contentsSelection dew
> > > 7/28/2000 00:44
> > > Browser>>messageCategoryListIndex: dew
> > > 7/28/2000 01:13
> > > Browser>>messageList ccn
> > > 3/24/1999 10:48
> > >
> > > I started with a clean 3.2-4956 image, and I have also tried
> > > the change
> > > set on a clean 3.0 final image, and things seem to work
> > properly. If
> > > anybody is interested in reviewing the history of my work,
> > I can make
> > > the image and change log available.
> > >
> > > I am happy with my fix, as far as I have looked at it. I don't
> > > know if this has implications for any other tools. Class
> browsers,
> > > senders, implementors, and things like that, that I used
> to "learn"
> > > the browser and find the places to change still work ok,
> > but I haven't
> > > made any specific effort to look for other code that might
> > be affected
> > > by my edits... So, caveat emptor. I would like to see the changes
> > > subject to some serious testing in other people's
> day-to-day work to
> > > see if I missed any problems or more importantly, unintentionally
> > > broke something.
> > >
> > > And an editorial comment on my part: The browser seems to have
> > > accumulated quite a bit of 'cruft' over the years. There
> are cases
> > > where there are methods with different selectors, but the same
> > > functionality, etc. Being such a central tool to the system, it
> > > might be worth the effort to seriously over-haul and/or re-build
> > > the browser from scratch.
> > >
> > > I spent a few days mucking around in the browser code, and I
> > > still don't feel like I really understand it (for whatever that is
> > > worth). I _feel_ that a simpler design with equivalent
> > functionality
> > > should be possible. I would be interested in other points
> > of view on
> > > this.
> > >
> > >
> > > -Dean
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Doug Way [mailto:dway at riskmetrics.com]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 12:03 AM
> > > > To: squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org
> > > > Subject: Re: Automatic selection of '--all--'
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I agree with Stephane and Andreas that the most
> > > > straightforward solution
> > > > is to just show all method names (and the class template)
> > > > when no method
> > > > category is selected.
> > > >
> > > > If we do this, there are still a couple of minor points:
> > > >
> > > > - I assume that we would get rid of the '-- all --' category,
> > > > since you
> > > > would already have a way to display all method names. It
> > > also might
> > > > make things a little cleaner for the Browser to have one
> > > less special
> > > > pseudo-category to deal with.
> > > >
> > > > - We would still have the 'no messages' pseudo-category which
> > > > shows up
> > > > when a new class is created. So you could still select this
> > > > category if
> > > > you want to add new methods which would show up as 'as yet
> > > > unclassified'.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, 3.4 is almost finalized (in a couple of weeks),
> so these
> > > > enhancements will have to wait for 3.5alpha. The current
> > > > behavior (not
> > > > including the recent #5137 fix attempt) has existed for a
> > couple of
> > > > years, so it seems reasonable to wait.
> > > >
> > > > If Dean or anyone else wants to try fixing it, that would
> > > be great.
> > > > Some of the Browser code can be tricky, but it should be
> > > doable. :-)
> > > > Otherwise I might try fixing it in a few weeks.
> > > >
> > > > - Doug Way
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wednesday, December 18, 2002, at 04:25 PM, Andreas
> Raab wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Dean and all,
> > > > >
> > > > > There's no reason to flame nor to blame here. This entire
> > > thread has
> > > > > been taken out of context of other messages. So let's try
> > > > to summarize:
> > > > > There is an apparent problem at this point if you try
> > to add class
> > > > > variables. This is because there is a pattern match in
> > the browser
> > > > > trying to recognize the '*subclass:' for class definitions
> > > > if the '--
> > > > > all --' category is selected. The proposal has been made to
> > > > change the
> > > > > pattern match that it "better recognizes" any attempt to
> > > > define a class
> > > > > when you hit accept while '-- all --' is selected.
> > > > >
> > > > > Looking at the code it appeared to me that all of this is
> > > due to the
> > > > > fact that if the '-- all --' category is selected we may or
> > > > may not try
> > > > > to define a class or a message. Since a category is
> > > selected you may
> > > > > expect to define a message. But since the '-- all --'
> > > > category shows the
> > > > > class definition when selected it is equally reasonable
> > > > trying to define
> > > > > a class rather than a message. That's the heart of
> the problem.
> > > > >
> > > > > My proposal was basically recognizing the fact that if a
> > > category is
> > > > > selected you should expect to edit a method and not a class
> > > > definition.
> > > > > There is nothing wrong with the '-- all --' category
> > > itself. What is
> > > > > wrong is the inability to distinguish between "class
> > > > definition mode"
> > > > > and "method definition mode" when '-- all --' is selected.
> > > > One way of
> > > > > solving this problem would be show all of the selectors
> > even if no
> > > > > category is selected. This preserves the intent of
> automatically
> > > > > selecting the '-- all --' category (namely to give an
> > > > overview of the
> > > > > entire protocol of some class) without getting into the
> > trouble of
> > > > > trying to do magic pattern matches if it is selected. In
> > > > which case it'd
> > > > > be very simple: You select a method category, you edit a
> > > method. You
> > > > > have no category selected, you edit the class definition.
> > > > >
> > > > > That's really all there is to it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > - Andreas
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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