> I will find a way to turn around that. But if you look in the book of 
> mark or in the book of goreniek they all have to deal with "getting 
> started with" and explaining what is an image, a vm.....

Well, yes but it depends on your target audience. Mark's target are CS
students for the most part and I think it's okay to tell them about "image",
"vm", "sources", and "changes". You were referring to "teachers" and I
implied school teachers not university professors.

BTW: On general grounds I would recommend that if your book comes with a CD
to put the things people need on that CD and name them appropriately.
Alternatively (if no CD) just make up a web site for the book (which is a
good idea anyways considering errata etc) and put the things people need
there. In any case - I think that while it may be worthwile to point people
to a place where they might get the "latest version" you should not rely on
that your examples work with any random Squeak version. Which seems like a
strong argument to include a particular version with the book.

Cheers,
  - Andreas

> -----Original Message-----
> From: squeak-dev-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org 
> [mailto:squeak-dev-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org] On 
> Behalf Of Stephane Ducasse
> Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 5:48 PM
> To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list
> Subject: Re: A squeak3.4 VM will be needed
> 
> 
> Hi alan
> 
> I know I was playing with Squeak inside web-browsers and this is 
> clearly the way to go
> in terms of out of the box impression.
> 
> I was not clear with my point. Now if a person (first year student 
> wants to play with squeak) there is no easy installer for mac 
> or PC as 
> far as I know. So my low-level solution was to have a consistency in 
> terms of name and to avoid to have
> squeak3.4image and squeak3.2b8 vm.
> 
> No more than that.
> 
> Stef
> 
> I will find a way to turn around that. But if you look in the book of 
> mark or in the book of goreniek they all have to deal with "getting 
> started with" and explaining what is an image, a vm.....
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sunday, January 19, 2003, at 05:38 PM, Alan Kay wrote:
> 
> > Stef --
> >
> > I have been trying this on several new machines and Michael 
> Rueger's 
> > installers really work very well.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Alan
> >
> > ------
> >
> > At 4:11 PM +0100 1/19/03, Stephane Ducasse wrote:
> >> Andreas I forgot to tell you that I ***have*** (and this 
> is boring) 
> >> to write somehow a chapter to explain how to start squeak 
> on at least 
> >> two mainstream OS ;). So if Squeak would have consistent 
> installers 
> >> this would really help me.
> >>
> >> Stef
> >
> >
> > -- 
> >
> >
> Dr. Stéphane DUCASSE (ducasse at iam.unibe.ch) 
> http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~ducasse/
>   "if you knew today was your last day on earth, what would you do
>   different? ... especially if, by doing something different, today
>   might not be your last day on earth" Calvin&Hobbes
> 
> 
>