Your point is well taken.

But no, I do not mean QuickTime as an open standard. Instead I sorta 
leaped
to _all_ proprietary formats (including QuickTime) and the paucity of
vendor independent content.

Can't these proprietary decoders take as input non-proprietary input?


On Tuesday, July 1, 2003, at 11:10 pm, Joshua 'Schwa' Gargus wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 10:54:55PM -0400, Jeff Szuhay wrote:
>> Fekk, also in a proprietary format -- RealPlayer.
>>
>> What ever happened to common/open data formats?
>
> I'm going to make a leap, and conclude from this and your other recent
> post that you belive that Quicktime is an example of such a
> common/open data format.  I beg to differ; try playing a Quicktime
> file on Linux without a proprietary, closed-source plugin.  Fekk.
>
> The Quicktime container format may be open, but the commonly used
> codecs are certainly not.
>
> Hopefully Ogg Theora (www.theora.org) will be as nice as Vorbis,
> and we will have a truly free alternative for video encoding and
> playback.
>
> Joshua
>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 1, 2003, at 06:01 pm, Gary Fisher wrote:
>>
>>> see
>>> http://sloan.stanford.edu/mousesite/1968Demo.html).
>> --
>>    When governments fear the people there is liberty.
>>    When the people fear the government there is tyranny.
>>      --Thomas Jefferson,
>>        third US president, architect and author (1743-1826)
>>
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