[BUG]Scampler-Posting, Authentication, Infinite Loop

Daniel Vainsencher danielv at netvision.net.il
Mon Jul 7 01:39:22 UTC 2003


Considering that I personally edit my notes on a web browser open on a
local swiki, I would really love to try this out.

Daniel

Umur at Writeme <umur at writeme.com> wrote:
> Each URL directory published on the web by a Swiki Server is a Swiki
> Book. Inside a book all references are auto maintained. 
> 
> Now I am opening a Scamper (still Scamper itself need pretty
> enhancement) instead of a workspace. The URL is "here:" and I am inside
> the embedded swiki book of that project. No clutter of workspace
> windows: just keep creating new titles for your ideas, search, refactor
> them later.
> 
> For that currently I am creating a specialization of scamper and swiki
> so that it can do everything a workspace can do such as containing
> arbitraty embedded morphs, linking to class comments, methods, linking
> to smalltalk expressions, etc.
> 
> My dream is to be able to brainstorm while developing and writing
> complete hypertext tutorials inside my projects.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: squeak-dev-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org
> [mailto:squeak-dev-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org] On Behalf Of
> Daniel Vainsencher
> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 12:53 PM
> To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list
> Subject: RE: [BUG]Scampler-Posting, Authentication, Infinite Loop
> 
> 
> That sounds interesting - what's a swiki book? 
> 
> How does it work?
> 
> Note that the network rewrite is already included - IIUC, the only thing
> you need to wait for is the next version of Comanche...
> 
> Daniel
> 
> Umur at Writeme <umur at writeme.com> wrote:
> > Yes there is pretty much overlap on the facilities needed for both 
> > Comanche and a prospective HTTPClient. It would be nice to hear 
> > Comanche people on what's needed...
> > 
> > I am also defending high reuse on server and client codes. First of 
> > all both need the same HttpRequest and HttpResponse objects.
> > 
> > Recently I made a nice project: Each project has an embedded Swiki 
> > book to use in place of normal workspace. Write your notes and code 
> > examples, search and find them later. It is very nice to have your 
> > brainstorming wiki attached to your project. Not to disturb existing 
> > wiki code and to allow for computers without a network connection, I 
> > created a virtual HttpSocket. Commanche is serving to it and Scamper 
> > is posting to it.
> > 
> > Unfortunately, because of the network rewrite, evolving comanche and 
> > seaside, I found out that I cannot release that code without 
> > disturbing somebody.
> > 
> > I will be keeping an eye on the network rewrite so that my project 
> > becomes something without side effects to the work of others.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: squeak-dev-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org
> > [mailto:squeak-dev-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org] On Behalf Of 
> > Daniel Vainsencher
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 8:07 PM
> > To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list
> > Subject: RE: [BUG]Scampler-Posting, Authentication, Infinite Loop
> > 
> > 
> > In which case, let's hope some network savvy Squeaker decides to 
> > implement a high quality HTTPClient. Could round out all those 
> > significant improvements in the networking area Squeak has been going 
> > through (network rewrite, Jabber support).
> > 
> > Maybe one of the Comanche people wants to weight in with their 
> > perspective on what's needed...
> > 
> > Daniel
> > 
> > Brent Vukmer <bvukmer at blackboard.com> wrote:
> > > [snip]
> > > > 
> > > > Note that HTTPSocket is going away - since mir's Network rewrite, 
> > > > the proper way to implement protocols is to use Clients. So a 
> > > > better direction might be to help implement the HTTPClient for the
> 
> > > > new framework in a way that can be controlled so that the problem 
> > > > you describe doesn't happen.
> > > > 
> > > > I'm not sure whether Michael still intends to implement HTTPClient
> 
> > > > on his own
> > > [snip]
> > > 
> > > FYI, I asked Michael about this a few days ago; he said:
> > > 
> > > "I took [HTTP migration to network rewrite] out as too many
> > > modifications and innovations are happening in Comanche and Seaside
> in
> > 
> > > that area.  And it won't really help to just rewrite the HTTPSocket.
> > > The URI package came out of the initial attempt to rewrite the HTTP 
> > > related stuff."



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