Thank you Diego! Bert! Matej! Nancy! and Alan! for your quick and 
empathetic replies! I'm really looking forward to using Squeak and 
sharing it with my students...BTW anyone know of a knoppix distro. 
shipping with Squeak?
Dennis

Diego Gomez Deck wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> As a result of the work between LinEx and Small Land we have produced 
> installation packages for debian based distrib utions of Linux and RPM 
> for redhat based.
> 
> I'll contact the LinEx guru (Jose Redrejo) to publish them
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Diego
> 
> 
>> Or Macs, which also install simply and cleanly.
>>
>> Seriously now, how many teachers currently use Linux?
>>
>> However, I'd like to get many more teachers using Linux, so now is a 
>> good time to make the installation much simpler. ("Linux" does seem to 
>> denote a far more ranging loose confederation of features and versions 
>> than even MS and Apple provide -- we have certainly found this so with 
>> respect to both 3D and sound -- so I think it would be good for expert 
>> Linux hackers to define and put forth the reasonable parameters on 
>> which an automatic installer can and should depend.)
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> At 7:13 AM -0700 7/10/03, Dennis Daniels wrote:
>>
>>>> Alan Kay recently spoke at a large national educational technology
>>>> conference in the US, so there may be other teacher folks who wander 
>>>> into
>>>> the squeak site needing to understand the distinction between the two
>>>> different squeak.exe files (same name; same icon for both the
>>>> squeak.com/complete and squeakland.com/plugin versions).
>>>
>>> That would be me, I saw Mr. Kay's presentation in Seattle and I went 
>>> home afire to play with this app...
>>>
>>> Squeak hasn't been anywhere as easy to install as I had hoped. Two 
>>> hours later, still not a squeak out of the install. I'm no expert 
>>> with Linux, though I've been using it as my OS (RH) for about a year 
>>> now... Chalk it up to user error, sure. But, Squeak should be as easy as
>>>
>>> apt-get install squeak
>>>
>>> should be easy if teachers are going to be using it.
>>>
>>> I was really surprised to find outdated rpms and no repository 
>>> (apt-get). Mr Kay's presentation was aimed at teachers but I got the 
>>> feeling, after looking at the install options, Squeak is for teachers 
>>> who are using MS.
>>>
>>> I'll take a look at the 'new' instructions. Maybe I'll get it going 
>>> this time...</end whine>
>>>
>>> Dennis
>>
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