Hi markus

I agree (even if I'm not completely aware of the internal aspects).
Can the people concerned established a schedule and process for making 
this happens.

Thanks
Stef

On Tuesday, March 25, 2003, at 11:12 AM, Marcus Denker wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 03:32:42AM -0500, Anthony Hannan wrote:
>> Hello All,
>>
>> A new version of my closure compiler is ready at
>> http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/ClosureCompiler (also linked from
>> SqueakMap).  The runtime has not changed (closures, context
>> enhancements, continuations, three new primitives, etc.), but the
>> compiler itself has been refactored (once again).  This time it uses 
>> the
>> SmaCC parser generator and the Refactory abstract syntax tree.  Also, 
>> the
>> back-end has been refactored a bit and the decompiler has been totally
>> rewritten.  A special thanks goes to John Brant and Don Roberts for
>> creating both Smacc and the Refactory Browser, and to Markus Gaelli
>> and Daniel Vainsencher for porting them, respectively, to Squeak.
>> Below is a short description of the closure compiler copied from the
>> Compiler class comment.
>>
>
> Wow, that's nice!
>
> We really need to start thinking about how to move this stuff into
> the main release...
>
> Question: There has in the past been the impression that we would
> do all "incompatible" changes in the (mythical) Version 4.
>
> Does it really make sense to pile up all these changes (e.g. Tim's 
> simpler
> compiled methods) and then postpone adoption indefinitly (because the
> change is so big)?
>
> The rational for not doing these changes incrementally was allways
> compatibility: You should be able to run old images on new vms and
> new images with old vms.
> Is this really important? We ship new VMs with each release anyway,
> and the old vm's are available via ftp forever, so doing incompatible
> changes shouldn't actually be so problematic in practice.
>
> I'd really like to see Tim's CompiledMethod changes and the 
> ClosureCompiler
> added to the main release soon.
>
> And, because I really think the SmaCC-and-Refactory bases compiler
> is really important, maybe it would even make sence to "backport"
> this to the current non-closure block implementation and inlcude this
> even as soon as 3.6.
>
>     Marcus
>
> -- 
> Marcus Denker marcus at ira.uka.de  -- Squeak! http://squeak.de
>
>
>
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