Hi, Diego!

Your assessment sounds about right and implies (at least to me) a subsequent
question: is Squeak to remain the vanguard in the journey from 3 + 4 to
*real* personal computing -- "Media (and much more) Squeak" -- or is it to
be sidetracked at some intermediate point like all the other descendants of
ST-72?  Simply put, is Squeak being built for tomorrow or for today?

Gary Fisher

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: diegogomezdeck at consultar.com
  To: squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org
  Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 4:23 AM
  Subject: What we want with Squeak?


  Hi,

  I think we're really near to find *the* source of all these discussion we
  have periodically since SqC leaves Disney.

  What we want with Squeak? Clearly there are 2 groups:

    - The "Media-Squeakers" (in Andreas's words)
    - The "Traditional-Squeaker" (in my words)

  I'll try to explain creating radicalized descriptions of these groups:

  The Media-Squeakers believes in Squeak as the most promising incarnation
of
  the Dynabook concept. These guys want TTF in the Image, Sound, Midi, PDF
  support, SVG readers/writers, Improved Look&Feel, Video support, etc and
  they are able to accept a big core image.

  The Traditional-Squeakers are more interested in "normal" development with
  Squeak and they are interested in SOAP, Relational DB Access, CORBA, CVS
  support, cgi-type web servers, native-widgets, etc.  These guys want a
  really small core image with nothing more than stdio support.

  If we don't agree with the goals difficulty we'll agree on methods.

  We have to decide what we want with Squeak and accept that, probably, the
  goals of these groups are not the same.  Personally I think we have not
  enough resources to try to get all the goals of both groups.

  In the SqC age the Media-Group was in charge and Squeak has excellent
  multimedia capabilities and absolute no support for "traditional"
  development.   In the Guides-Age these goals, imho, are not so clear.

  Cheers,

  Diego




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