On Friday 10 October 2003 10:15, Martin Wirblat wrote:
> I meant: when swapping is turned on, all keys sould be swapped, aka
> the modifier keys should be swapped, as it is possible for some OS-UIs.
>  If the main modifier key of Squeak does not match the one of the OS
> we are a bit more incompatible without gaining anything.

I made that choice so as not to disrupt too many of the other settings. Squeak 
uses both Ctrl and Cmd/Alt modifiers, so it's not just a matter of changing 
the "main modifier". 

The keys I chose to swap were just the ones with common meanings:

defaultCrossPlatformKeys
	"Answer a list of key letters that are used for common editing operations
	on different platforms."
	^{ $c . $x . $v . $a . $s . $f . $g . $z }


> Another plus: this behavior would be easier to describe in the help,
> than a second 'special table' for swappings, which looks a bit funny.
>
> regards
> Martin
>
> "Lex Spoon" <lex at cc.gatech.edu> wrote on 10.10.2003 16:12:57:
> >Martin Wirblat <sql.mawi at t-link.de> wrote:
> >> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 12:08:14 +0100
> >> From: Martin Wirblat <sql.mawi at t-link.de>
> >> Subject: Re:duplicateControlAndAltKeys  by default?
> >> To: Squeak <squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
> >> reply-to: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak-
> >> dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
> >>
> >> "Lex Spoon" <lex at cc.gatech.edu> wrote on 09.10.2003 21:05:27:
> >> >Is there a reason this preference disabled in the default 3.6
> >> >image?
> >> > Surely we want it turned on, because this is a small thing that
> >> > can
> >> >really irritate new users.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >-Lex
> >>
> >> Really confusing is that the help-text does not match either
> >> setting.
> >>  To duplicate the keys is even more confusing: One might think
> >>  there is
> >> no difference at all between the ctrl and alt-key.
> >
> >Who really knows until we try it, but I don't expect this would be
> >*that* confusing.  People will develop the expectation that it doesn't
> >matter which key you use, but the first time there's a difference they
> >will figure out in a hurry.
> >
> >The help text could explicitly say things like "alt-v or ctrl-v" in
> >places where it doesn't matter, to make this especially clear.
> >
> >And yes, the help text should change when you change the preference,
> >hadn't thought of that.
> >
> >> IMO the best solution would be to swap all keys, and to update the
> >> help-text so, that it explains that modifier-keys can be swapped to
> >> match the OS.
> >
> >That just changes which group of people have an awkward key setup.
> >On a Mac, everyone is used to the current bindings.  These guys
> >shouldn't have to read the docs just to get the key bindings set up.
> >
> >
> >-Lex

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