Hi Diego,

Nice summary. Thanks!

Cheers,
  - Andreas

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> [mailto:squeak-dev-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org] On 
> Behalf Of Diego Gomez Deck
> Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 2:52 PM
> To: Squeak developers list
> Subject: [ENH] [Babel] Screening tool
> 
> 
> Hi folks...
> 
> Andreas and me spend some days talking about Babel and implicit vs.
> explicit string literals translations.
> 
> (If somebody is interested in the thread I can send it by private
> email).
> 
> We agreed on some points:
> 
> 1) Translation in the widgets make no sense at all.  The only 
> reasonable
> argument to translate in the widgets is the option to 
> translated without
> modifying the model sources and, to get this goal, we don't need to
> translate in the widgets.
> 
> 2) To translate in the model we have 2 options: Implicit and 
> Explicit. 
> Explicit means send message #translate to every visible string in the
> image and Implicit means get (and translate) the string without
> modifying the source.  Both model has benefits and drawbacks.
> 
> 3) We talk about delaying the final decision using the 
> Implicit model. 
> Putting all the information in the tool used to tag the strings (The
> Screening Tool) is the more conservative decision for today because we
> can translate the image without changing so much the sources 
> and when we
> get more experience we can decide to continue with the 
> Implicit model or
> to switch to the Explicit one.  In the case we decide to go with the
> explicit model we can use the same Screening Tool to insert the
> #translated message all over the image.
> 
> Here I'm pasting the email I received from Andreas with the list of
> steps to try the screening tool:
> 
> 
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> 
> 
>        De: 
> Andreas Raab
> <andreas.raab at gmx.de>
>      Para: 
> 'Diego Gomez
> Deck'
> <DiegoGomezDeck at ConsultAr.com>
>    Asunto: 
> RE: Squeak
> list et al
>     Fecha: 
> Sun, 12 Oct
> 2003
> 18:05:10
> +0200
> 
> Hi Diego,
> 
> Attached is a first version of the screening tool to get an 
> idea what it
> may
> feel like. To use it, load the LocalizationInfo.cs into your 
> system and
> open
> the tool from the world menu.
> 
> The screening tool has the structure of your system to the left and a
> code
> pane to the right. As you expand the tree on the left (use the cursor
> keys
> for efficiency!) you are able to dive down into the classes, 
> methods and
> individual literal strings of that method.
> 
> In order to flag a string for localization, just hit space (this will
> toggle
> through "[+] - translate", "[ ] - do not translate" and "[?] - I don't
> know"). In addition the context menu provides a few global 
> actions that
> you
> can use. For example, the way I typically use it is to keep hitting
> cursor-right until I find a string, hit space and keep going until I
> have
> all the guys I think should be translated and then just "exclude the
> undefined" strings.
> 
> Once you are done (with either class, category, or package) 
> you can use
> the
> context menu to save the localization info for the unit of work you've
> been
> working on. This will spit out a ".lif" file which you can load into
> another
> system (just use the file list). The file contains all of the info
> required
> to tag the strings we want to translate at runtime.
> 
> I have also attached an example LIF file for the world menu to
> demonstrate
> the effect. In order to test this, please do exactly what I am
> describing in
> the following:
> * Get a clean 3.6 image
> * Load the localization info cs
> * Load Babel-dgd.cs
> * Load Babel-FileListServices-dgd.cs
> [NOTE: Do NOT load the "complete translations" - this would spoil the
> effect]
> * Install "TheWorldMenu.lif" from the file list
> * Install "Spanish.translations" (or any other translation you have)
> from
> the file list
> * Set the language to spanish (or the one you loaded)
> 
> Now open the world menu - you will see it's still in english. That's
> because
> we haven't installed the translations yet. Let's install them:
> 
> LiteralStringLocalizationManager install: Language defaultLanguage
> 
> Open the world menu again - now it's all in spanish. To get 
> back to the
> previous (untranslated) version evaluate
> 
> LiteralStringLocalizationManager install: nil.
> 
> Open the world menu again - it's back to english.
> 
> Okay, that's about it for now.
> 
> Cheers,
>   - Andreas
> 
> 
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> 
> Comments are welcome!
> 
> 
> -- 
> Diego Gomez Deck
> http://www.small-land.org
>