Namespaces and Classboxes (and finally a link!)
Alexandre Bergel
bergel at iam.unibe.ch
Fri Apr 2 15:55:29 UTC 2004
Hi all!
This thread is a good motivation to release something. On SqueakMap I have created two packages: Classbox and ClassboxBrowser. It is pretty messy, a lot of names are not well chosen, I just need time to clean it a bit. Unfortunately I cannot spend the amount of time I would like on this stuff.
The model is more or less okay. One good startpoint is to read the test class VMNormal>>testClassExtension1. It shows some basic stuff.
The browser is far from being finished. However its use is illustrated on a page containing several screenshots where you can see classboxes in action :-)
http://kilana.unibe.ch:9090/classboxes/classboxtutorial/
I would be really glad for any comment.
Cheers,
Alexandre
On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 11:11:25AM +0100, goran.krampe at bluefish.se wrote:
> Hi!
>
> =?ISO-8859-1?Q?st=E9phane_ducasse?= <ducasse at iam.unibe.ch> wrote:
> > Hi goran
> >
> > not all the namespace are bad. Do not confuse java bad design and
> > namespace.
> > Java package are just shortcuts. Also VisualWorks did some pretty bad
> > choices: importing a namespace at the class level sucks.
> >
> > Read our classbox paper (you will get soon near you a version running).
>
> Got a fresh pointer?
>
> > This is a bit old now and
> > we got a much better paper that we can send on demand (because this is
> > under submission).
>
> Well, no rush.
>
> Anyway, I just get nervous when people start talking about namespaces.
> :) Not because the concept is bad in itself - but that I think we must
> do something different from the others in order to keep the "good
> values" of Squeak/Smalltak today.
>
> But it sounds like you are thinking along the same lines.
>
> regards, Göran
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