Namespaces and Classboxes (and finally a link!)

Andreas Raab andreas.raab at gmx.de
Fri Apr 2 16:20:01 UTC 2004


Hm...
    Error occurred during install:
    ClassBox>>activeProcess
And then the system is dead...

Cheers,
  - Andreas

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alexandre Bergel" <bergel at iam.unibe.ch>
To: "The general-purpose Squeak developers list"
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Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: Namespaces and Classboxes (and finally a link!)


> Hi all!
>
> This thread is a good motivation to release something. On SqueakMap I have
created two packages: Classbox and ClassboxBrowser. It is pretty messy, a
lot of names are not well chosen, I just need time to clean it a bit.
Unfortunately I cannot spend the amount of time I would like on this stuff.
>
> The model is more or less okay. One good startpoint is to read the test
class VMNormal>>testClassExtension1. It shows some basic stuff.
>
> The browser is far from being finished. However its use is illustrated on
a page containing several screenshots where you can see classboxes in action
:-)
> http://kilana.unibe.ch:9090/classboxes/classboxtutorial/
>
> I would be really glad for any comment.
>
> Cheers,
> Alexandre
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 11:11:25AM +0100, goran.krampe at bluefish.se wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > =?ISO-8859-1?Q?st=E9phane_ducasse?= <ducasse at iam.unibe.ch> wrote:
> > > Hi goran
> > >
> > > not all the namespace are bad. Do not confuse java bad design and
> > > namespace.
> > > Java package are just shortcuts. Also VisualWorks did some pretty bad
> > > choices: importing a namespace at the class level sucks.
> > >
> > > Read our classbox paper (you will get soon near you a version
running).
> >
> > Got a fresh pointer?
> >
> > > This is a bit old now and
> > > we got a much better paper that we can send on demand (because this is
> > > under submission).
> >
> > Well, no rush.
> >
> > Anyway, I just get nervous when people start talking about namespaces.
> > :) Not because the concept is bad in itself - but that I think we must
> > do something different from the others in order to keep the "good
> > values" of Squeak/Smalltak today.
> >
> > But it sounds like you are thinking along the same lines.
> >
> > regards, Göran
>
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